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Postby sigriffey » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:13 pm

This could be a great deal considering Votto can be kept thru 2013. The others (aside from Hosmer and Ackley) are keepers thru 2012. We keep 6 players each year.

I give: Cargo, Bruce, Hosmer and Wandy
I get: Votto, McCutchen, Ackley and Cueto


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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby dannahann » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:21 pm

Really a tough call for me. Don't laugh but by 2013 it's not inconceivable that Hosmer would be the preferred keeper to Votto. They are very similar hitters. Getting McCuthen would be great but Bruce and/or CarGo are going to be right there with him as keeper OF. The big difference is you'd lose two of them to net 1. I'd favor Wandy by just a little bit over Cueto. Ackley is meh. He's not going to be a + power source in that ballpark nor does he steal lots of bases. He'll put up decent batting average. I fear he'll become another Callaspo / Polanco type infielder. Plus player but not a fantasy force.
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:28 pm

We can only keep 6 players per season. Does that influence anyone one way or the other?
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby dannahann » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:33 pm

sigriffey wrote:We can only keep 6 players per season. Does that influence anyone one way or the other?

Making the assumption this roster now has Cano on it too I see your point. Votto probably replaces Cargo among your 6 keeps. Cutch or Bruce may or may not make the cut.
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:37 pm

I don't own Cano (I wish I did!). But can you recap what you would do with this trade?

By the way, Hanson is headed to the DL. No structural damage to the shoulder, but inflamation. So I'll have to DL him, which may put pressure on my pitching staff (thus making it harder to move Wandy). However, this is a genuine shot at getting Votto abnd controlling him thru 2013.
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby dannahann » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:21 pm

sigriffey wrote:I don't own Cano (I wish I did!). But can you recap what you would do with this trade?

By the way, Hanson is headed to the DL. No structural damage to the shoulder, but inflamation. So I'll have to DL him, which may put pressure on my pitching staff (thus making it harder to move Wandy). However, this is a genuine shot at getting Votto abnd controlling him thru 2013.

Sorry I got confused there. re-recap: Being you only keep 6 and you are loaded it's an OK deal if you are more concerned with your top 6 next spring than winning right now. If a 2011 championship is a bigger priority I think you are giving up too much here and I wouldn't make this trade. I recapped what I thought of the individual players as keeps a few posts up on this thread.
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:40 pm

Very tempted at the prospect of a lineup that sports both Prince and Votto ... would help fight slumps that guys like Bruce and Cargo tend to go through. But I dunno.

I am looking to win this year but also have a solid foundation.
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby Mortician » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:27 pm

for you, being a keeper, and that you already have prince, id keep cargo & bruce

as per the trade itself, its an incredibly even trade in my opinion... votto > cargo,
mccutcheon < bruce, hosmer = lawrie, cueto = wandy
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:25 pm

Anyone else? Thoughts?
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Re: Mega Deal for Votto/McCutchen ... YES or NO? WHIR

Postby ahcryky » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:16 pm

dannahann wrote:Really a tough call for me. Don't laugh but by 2013 it's not inconceivable that Hosmer would be the preferred keeper to Votto. They are very similar hitters. Getting McCuthen would be great but Bruce and/or CarGo are going to be right there with him as keeper OF. The big difference is you'd lose two of them to net 1. I'd favor Wandy by just a little bit over Cueto. Ackley is meh. He's not going to be a + power source in that ballpark nor does he steal lots of bases. He'll put up decent batting average. I fear he'll become another Callaspo / Polanco type infielder. Plus player but not a fantasy force.


I have Hosmer, please give me Votto straight up. As for the trade, I like it that you can keep Votto an extra year, the only unknown here is Ackley. It hurts to lose Bruce, but I like it over all for you.
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