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Postby MMBosstones86 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:56 am

13 team mixed, very deep (32 man roster).

i'm buried in 11th and have a couple good pieces i want to deal for prospects, try to build for the future. Have been offered quite a few trades, this one seems decent enough to start, thoughts?

I give -

Miguel Cabrera
Alex Avila
Yovanni Gallardo

I get -

Justin Smoak
Dustin Ackley
Mitch Moreland
Derek Holland
Shelby Miller

seems like a lot to give up, so i wanted your thoughts before going try to deal anything!

Anyone wants to throw their opinion out, i'll glady listen and WHIR if i can.
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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby berrymyers » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:03 am

You're giving up way too much. You're getting 2 moderate 1B, an ok sp(Holland), a potential great 2B, and a potential ace. However, you're giving up a stud 1B, an already established ace pitcher, and an up and coming young C. I don't think you are getting near the value you deserve with what you're giving up. Ackley will be good at a thin position, and Miller has the potential to be an ace but those are the highlights in the deal. Look elsewhere or counter with just Cabrera for Miller, Ackley, Smoak.

Whoever is trying to get Cabrera needs to pay for him, not take advantage that you want to rebuild.

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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby ahcryky » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:15 am

Terrible deal for you....... Decline
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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby MMBosstones86 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:24 am

berrymyers wrote:You're giving up way too much. You're getting 2 moderate 1B, an ok sp(Holland), a potential great 2B, and a potential ace. However, you're giving up a stud 1B, an already established ace pitcher, and an up and coming young C. I don't think you are getting near the value you deserve with what you're giving up. Ackley will be good at a thin position, and Miller has the potential to be an ace but those are the highlights in the deal. Look elsewhere or counter with just Cabrera for Miller, Ackley, Smoak.

Whoever is trying to get Cabrera needs to pay for him, not take advantage that you want to rebuild.

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appreciate the advice.

you have smoak > moreland? smoak definetly has the power, but hasn't shown the average in the bigs yet. moreland just came up, but showed a good power/average combo in the minors....so who knows.

Thanks for the advice guys....great to hear an outside voice on these big trades!
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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby berrymyers » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:38 am

MMBosstones86 wrote:
you have smoak > moreland? smoak definetly has the power, but hasn't shown the average in the bigs yet. moreland just came up, but showed a good power/average combo in the minors....so who knows.


I think Smoak is going to be a bigger piece of his teams future than Moreland. Hitting in the 4 or 5 spot for Seattle. In my opinion there is just more potential with Smoak.
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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby cforester » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:43 am

No way you can possibly accept this offer. Cabrera is one of the games best hitters, your looking to rebuild so it's not smart to move an up and coming stud catcher (when catcher is a pretty shallow position to pull from), and a proven stud ace that is pitching out of his mind besides a couple rough games (that even then weren't all that bad). Don't do it.

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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby CubsFan4Life23 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:13 am

You cant trade away a top 3 talent...I had someone offer me Ellsbur, Holliday, Lester and others for Cabrera and declined, bc you won't get the same production from anyone else like you will a Braun, Cabrera or Pujols.

Decline and sleep well knowing you did the right thing.

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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby MMBosstones86 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:57 am

great help guys.

I have no problem moving Cabrera if I can get enough in return for him.

What would be an 'acceptable' amount to get back (# of MLB players, # of prospects)? If this will help me get out of the cellar next year, I don't have an issue pulling the trigger IF the price is right.
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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby avsfan4ever33 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:29 pm

MMBosstones86 wrote:great help guys.

I have no problem moving Cabrera if I can get enough in return for him.

What would be an 'acceptable' amount to get back (# of MLB players, # of prospects)? If this will help me get out of the cellar next year, I don't have an issue pulling the trigger IF the price is right.


Personally, I'd want young MLB talent in return for M-Cab, not prospects. He's a top three player in my mind, so he warrants a significant return.

Now, I should clarify that I wouldn't mind taking prospects like Trout or Ackley who are close to the big leagues already, but that would need to be on top of MLB talent.
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Re: huge franchise trade. WHIR

Postby MMBosstones86 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:45 pm

really apprecaite the help guys.... unfortunately trading is the worst part of my fantasy game.

what are names I should look at or set a trade around when dealing Cabrera or even Avila? Don't want to get robbed you know? hah
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