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Postby sigriffey » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:26 pm

Man, this has been a hassle ... the guy has baited and switched a lot. For any who have ben helping with these, I thank you and ask that you please look at this one... Do this deal?

I give: Jay Bruce, Tommy Hanson and Jordan Zimmermann
I get: Joey Votto and Trevor Cahill


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Re: OK... Maybe THIS Votto Trade? WHIR

Postby JJGBPD » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:27 am

Wow this one is tough for me. I have Votto and Bruce, and as much as I love Votto, Bruce has been my best overall player. Right now, I think I'd lean towards not doing the deal. Bruce is absolutely on fire and Tommy Hanson has put up better numbers than Cahill. Hanson has same ERA, better WHIP, and better K's. Then, add in the fact that you keep Zimmerman on top of that... I think I hold off for now.
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Re: OK... Maybe THIS Votto Trade? WHIR

Postby Bolthead04 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:54 am

If this were Votto + Cahill for Bruce + Zimmermann, I might be on board.

As it stands, you're getting similar production from a position easier to produce at. 1B has some of the best players in the game producing like mad. OF has several too, but it's easier to find an elite 1B than an elite OF. (In my opinion anyway....)

Cahill for Zimmermann would offset that perceived loss in my mind, as Cahill should be an upgrade over Zim.

Wanting Hanson too is ridiculous. He's trying to fleece you hard. Even if this was Votto/Cahill for Bruce/Hanson, I'd say that's too much. If I remember right, you did say bruce can only be kept until 2012 whereas Votto could be until 2013. If he will only trade if he can fleece you, that extra keeper year is NOT worth it.

Don't do the trade. And frankly, I would just tell him I'm not interested with trying to work out a trade with him. He'll only trade you if he can get the drop on you, so just don't trade with him. I have people in my league like that too. (Someone just got Adrian Beltre off the 10th place team for Kyle Lohse... I don't see how that's even possible without some serious pushing....) I just don't try with them.


Anyway, hope you find a trade that works, but I don't think it's for Votto.

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