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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby mt99808 » Sun May 29, 2011 5:50 pm

J35J wrote:
mt99808 wrote:How can nobody even mention Greinke??? He's got 39 k's to 3 bb's in 28 innings.


Because his ERA is ugly.... ;-7


That's nice but ERA isn't a good indicator of future success (or ERA for that matter).
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby bandrus1 » Sun May 29, 2011 6:07 pm

when does cahill start getting considered ?
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby j24jags » Sun May 29, 2011 6:09 pm

bandrus1 wrote:when does cahill start getting considered ?

If he can improve/sustain his K rate...
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby J35J » Mon May 30, 2011 1:17 pm

mt99808 wrote:
J35J wrote:
mt99808 wrote:How can nobody even mention Greinke??? He's got 39 k's to 3 bb's in 28 innings.


Because his ERA is ugly.... ;-7


That's nice but ERA isn't a good indicator of future success (or ERA for that matter).


Thanks for the lesson! Maybe I should have put a couple more of these ;-7 ;-7 in there.
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby cs3 » Mon May 30, 2011 6:32 pm

greinke wasnt among the top 10 SP pitchers to start the year, and he hasnt pitched enough (and with enough success) yet to put him that high now.

i have no argument with Haren being in that group. He is pitching even better in the AL than he was in the NL.

shields and cahill are both guys i was thinking about, but neither has more than a year of sustained domiance, so are you really going to take either one of them before the group of guys that were mentioned in the first 3 posts?
if you honestly answer yes then i would love to have you in my leagues.

and yes, i realize Pineda has only 2 months of MLB experience, but his ceiling is so high, and hes so young (i mentioned Keeper league in my post) that i would be more than willing to take him before guys like shields, cahill, greinke, etc

btw, i know you were saying it toungue in cheek... but era *is* a fantasy stat. just saying
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby chargerss24 » Mon May 30, 2011 6:55 pm

"Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now"

The subject line could be taken any number of ways. I took the subject line as this very day. Shields and Pineda are arguably the best pitchers out there among the top 10, if not the top five pitchers THIS VERY DAY. No?
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby cs3 » Mon May 30, 2011 7:07 pm

ya lots of room for interpretation.
i took it as top 10 guys you would take on your team right now, as in i wouldnt trade a guy on my list for any pitcher i have ranked below him
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby J35J » Mon May 30, 2011 8:00 pm

cs3 wrote:greinke wasnt among the top 10 SP pitchers to start the year, and he hasnt pitched enough (and with enough success) yet to put him that high now.

and yes, i realize Pineda has only 2 months of MLB experience, but his ceiling is so high, and hes so young (i mentioned Keeper league in my post) that i would be more than willing to take him before guys like shields, cahill, greinke, etc


A bit of back and forth here, no?


Greinke was in some top 10's for sure, up until he got hurt anyway. I had him top 5 before his injury.

Greinke - 2.77 FIP/1.58 xFIP/12.54 K/9/0.96 BB/9
Pineda - 2.60 FIP/3.18 xFIP/9.38 K/9/2.70 BB/9

Don't get me wrong...I love Pineda, but to put him top 10 so quickly is a mistake...Latos anyone?
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby cs3 » Mon May 30, 2011 8:28 pm

yes, i acknowledged that im kind of going at it from both sides in regards to Pineda.
but i also qualified that by saying i was ranking them based on the assumption of a keeper league, (and in regards to trade value).
under those assumptions I dont think many people would keep Pineda off their team if they could choose any 10 pitchers in baseball.

also the consensus among the cafe was that Greinke was NOT in the top 10 ( i personally had him in the 12-15 range), even before his injury:
http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/2011 ... gs_jan.php

and after he got hurt he obviously fell further.

i will admit that the projection systems liked Greinke a little better, altho these rankings were all out well before news of his broken ribs surfaced:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl= ... full#gid=1
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Re: Top 10 fantasy starting pitchers right now

Postby kab21 » Mon May 30, 2011 8:37 pm

Pineda is not in my top 10 in redraft leagues. And if Greinke isn't then he's number 11 or 12 since he's shown that he's healthy and is pitching awesome so far.
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