Barry Bonds is a nice guy!

[mweir145]

But he took steroids in the steroids era, man. That makes him a terrible person.

I can't believe you don't have a jester's icon.

I have been deemed unworthy of any icon, except the esteemed eyeball (though I have long forgotten what that even means).

[mweir145]

There's a difference between donating to corporate charities to write off some taxes and what Bonds did. I never thought Bonds was a jerk, he just was a really private guy who learned that from watching how people treated his dad. San Fran fans love him and the media doesn't. Am I going to take the media's side or Bonds' side. Um, that's a no brainer. The only problem I ever had with Bonds is that once records were in sight he should have taken a dive. But, when the record is McGwire's whom I'm sure Bonds knew was a user even that is forgivable.

Taken a dive why? Because the amphetamine user Hank Aaron is seen as clean in the public's eye?

[jfg]

I know, I know. At that point I think Barry Bonds did it out of spite when the world was rooting against him. McGwire and Sosa were probably being told by the league to keep doing what they were doing to bring fans back. All I'm saying is that when you do something against the rules you should stop before you bring attention to it. If players in the steroid era would have done that the backlash never would have happened.

[mweir145]

Spite? I just think he was a competitive athlete driven to break that record for much of his career, so he did. He was thinking for himself and his own career accomplishments, not for your interpretation of the "good of the game." I don't think that's anything to look down on him for.

[jfg]

Nah, I don't look down on him. Everybody was doing it. I just wish records weren't broken- not for the sake of the records but because of what happened to people's trust in the players.

[cs3]

But he took steroids in the steroids era, man. That makes him a terrible person.

I can't believe you don't have a jester's icon.

I have been deemed unworthy of any icon, except the esteemed eyeball (though I have long forgotten what that even means).

off topic but does my little yellow square mean???
badge of honor i assume?

[jfg]

It means beginner. When you sign up there is a box you can check to let people know you are new to the game. You can change it in your control panel.

[B-Chad]

There's a difference between donating to corporate charities to write off some taxes and what Bonds did. I never thought Bonds was a jerk, he just was a really private guy who learned that from watching how people treated his dad. San Fran fans love him and the media doesn't. Am I going to take the media's side or Bonds' side. Um, that's a no brainer. The only problem I ever had with Bonds is that once records were in sight he should have taken a dive. But, when the record is McGwire's whom I'm sure Bonds knew was a user even that is forgivable.

Taken a dive why? Because the amphetamine user Hank Aaron is seen as clean in the public's eye?

Thank you! I want to slug people like Jim Rice in the face for smearing the, "steroid era," players and placing himself and others from a previous era on a pedestal. The fact amphetamines, aka greenies, get a hall pass from the media and general public is mind boggling. In the dog days of summer, they were without question a performance enhancer. Going even further, why do players from the segregated era of baseball get a pass as well? What would a player like Babe Ruth's numbers look like if he didn't play against a watered down player pool and had to face the best pitchers in the Negro Leagues of that time?

Was Bonds arrogant? Yes, absolutely. Was he less than friendly and short with the media? Yup. Did he shove camera men and lash out at media like Randy Johnson and Kenny Rogers? Not that I remember. How about behaving like a brute of a teammate? Sure, from the sounds of things, but no more so than say Jeff Kent.

[wrveres]

How about behaving like a brute of a teammate? Sure, from the sounds of things, but no more so than say Jeff Kent.

or Jim Rice.

Ive been saying it for years. the reason so many people dislike Bonds, is because they were told to.

[J35J]

How about behaving like a brute of a teammate? Sure, from the sounds of things, but no more so than say Jeff Kent.

or Jim Rice.

Ive been saying it for years. the reason so many people dislike Bonds, is because they were told to.

Don't be mean to the sheeple. They are people too.