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Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby jtwins9 » Mon May 23, 2011 10:32 am

Would you give up Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Shaun Marcum? I've got Furcal & Aybar at SS and definitely need another strong SP....I'd hate to give up Votto, but I do have Ike Davis as a backup who I think could have a solid year....

thoughts???

C - C. Santana
1B - J. Votto, I. Davis
2B - Barney
SS - Aybar/Furcal
3B - A. Ramirez/R. Reynolds
OF - R. Braun, N. Cruz, A. Pagan, N. Swisher, R. Roberts, C. Quentin
DH - D. Ortiz
SP - C. Hamels, M. Scherzer, B. Colon, J. Hellickson, F. Liriano, D. Hudson, Z. Greinke, S. Strasburg (keeper)
RP - M. Rivera, C. Perez, K. Farnsworth

LEAGUE INFO:
H2H, PTS

Singles (1B) 1
Doubles (2B) 2
Triples (3B) 3
Home Runs (HR) 4
Walks (BB) 1
Runs Scored (R) 1
Runs Batted In (RBI) 1
Stolen Bases (SB) 2
Strikeouts (K) -1
Intentional Walks (IBB) 1
Caught Stealing (CS) -2
Hitting for the Cycle (CYC) 15

Innings Pitched (IP) 0.75
Earned Runs (ER) -1
Wins (W) 10
Losses (L) -5
Saves (SV) 8
Blown Saves (BS) -3
Strikeouts (K) 1
Shutouts (SO) 10
Complete Games (CG) 5
Quality Starts (QS) 3
No Hitters (NH) 15
Perfect Games (PG) 20
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby ahcryky » Mon May 23, 2011 10:41 am

Selling Votto low here........ I wouldn't give up Votto for that return.
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby onitapgr » Mon May 23, 2011 10:43 am

jtwins9 wrote:Would you give up Votto for Alexei Ramirez? I've got Furcal & Aybar at SS and definitely need another strong SP....I'd hate to give up Votto, but I do have Ike Davis as a backup who I think could have a solid year....

thoughts???

C - C. Santana
1B - J. Votto, I. Davis
2B - Barney
SS - Aybar/Furcal
3B - A. Ramirez/R. Reynolds
OF - R. Braun, N. Cruz, A. Pagan, N. Swisher, R. Roberts, C. Quentin
DH - D. Ortiz
SP - C. Hamels, M. Scherzer, B. Colon, J. Hellickson, F. Liriano, D. Hudson, Z. Greinke, S. Strasburg (keeper)
RP - M. Rivera, C. Perez, K. Farnsworth

LEAGUE INFO:
H2H, PTS

Singles (1B) 1
Doubles (2B) 2
Triples (3B) 3
Home Runs (HR) 4
Walks (BB) 1
Runs Scored (R) 1
Runs Batted In (RBI) 1
Stolen Bases (SB) 2
Strikeouts (K) -1
Intentional Walks (IBB) 1
Caught Stealing (CS) -2
Hitting for the Cycle (CYC) 15

Innings Pitched (IP) 0.75
Earned Runs (ER) -1
Wins (W) 10
Losses (L) -5
Saves (SV) 8
Blown Saves (BS) -3
Strikeouts (K) 1
Shutouts (SO) 10
Complete Games (CG) 5
Quality Starts (QS) 3
No Hitters (NH) 15
Perfect Games (PG) 20


Heck no...you should be able to get a lot more for Votto...I would wait and make sure Ike is healthy also before trading Votto
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby ytorf » Mon May 23, 2011 11:45 am

I wouldn't do it either. Once Greinke builds up stamina your pitching will look a lot better.

I feel like a strong offense is more important in H2H points. Plus there's almost always a decent spot starter on the WW.

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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby jpbusta » Mon May 23, 2011 11:47 am

I never like getting multiple descent players for my stud. Even though Alexei and Marcum are great, I wouldn't give up Votto for them.
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby jtwins9 » Tue May 24, 2011 2:50 pm

Thanks - all very helpful...I chose NOT to make this deal....

thoughts on the following:

votto/liriano for lincecum/smoak...??
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby Metric81 » Tue May 24, 2011 2:56 pm

Absolutely not! Nowhere near enough to give up Votto.
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby zomberg » Tue May 24, 2011 3:06 pm

You can't seeme, but I'm shaking my head no. Vigorously.
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby jtwins9 » Tue May 24, 2011 3:11 pm

hahaha....no to the lincecum for votto? really? is it that bad of a deal?

pitching really does rule our league....again, i'm on the fence so i respect all opinions...but i didn't think it was a vigorous head shaker!
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Re: Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

Postby zomberg » Tue May 24, 2011 3:16 pm

jtwins9 wrote:hahaha....no to the lincecum for votto? really? is it that bad of a deal?

pitching really does rule our league....again, i'm on the fence so i respect all opinions...but i didn't think it was a vigorous head shaker!


Sorry, that was for the first offer. I didn't read down the post enough. :)

Hmm...Lincecum, huh? How does pitching rule your league? i.e. How many more points do aces have than solid starters? I'm functioning on too little sleep to calculate the math in my head...
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