Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Marcum

[jtwins9]

Would you give up Votto for Alexei Ramirez & Shaun Marcum? I've got Furcal & Aybar at SS and definitely need another strong SP....I'd hate to give up Votto, but I do have Ike Davis as a backup who I think could have a solid year....

thoughts???

C - C. Santana
1B - J. Votto, I. Davis
2B - Barney
SS - Aybar/Furcal
3B - A. Ramirez/R. Reynolds
OF - R. Braun, N. Cruz, A. Pagan, N. Swisher, R. Roberts, C. Quentin
DH - D. Ortiz
SP - C. Hamels, M. Scherzer, B. Colon, J. Hellickson, F. Liriano, D. Hudson, Z. Greinke, S. Strasburg (keeper)
RP - M. Rivera, C. Perez, K. Farnsworth

LEAGUE INFO:
H2H, PTS

Singles (1B) 1
Doubles (2B) 2
Triples (3B) 3
Home Runs (HR) 4
Walks (BB) 1
Runs Scored (R) 1
Runs Batted In (RBI) 1
Stolen Bases (SB) 2
Strikeouts (K) -1
Intentional Walks (IBB) 1
Caught Stealing (CS) -2
Hitting for the Cycle (CYC) 15

Innings Pitched (IP) 0.75
Earned Runs (ER) -1
Wins (W) 10
Losses (L) -5
Saves (SV) 8
Blown Saves (BS) -3
Strikeouts (K) 1
Shutouts (SO) 10
Complete Games (CG) 5
Quality Starts (QS) 3
No Hitters (NH) 15
Perfect Games (PG) 20

[ahcryky]

Selling Votto low here........ I wouldn't give up Votto for that return.

[onitapgr]

Would you give up Votto for Alexei Ramirez? I've got Furcal & Aybar at SS and definitely need another strong SP....I'd hate to give up Votto, but I do have Ike Davis as a backup who I think could have a solid year....

thoughts???

C - C. Santana
1B - J. Votto, I. Davis
2B - Barney
SS - Aybar/Furcal
3B - A. Ramirez/R. Reynolds
OF - R. Braun, N. Cruz, A. Pagan, N. Swisher, R. Roberts, C. Quentin
DH - D. Ortiz
SP - C. Hamels, M. Scherzer, B. Colon, J. Hellickson, F. Liriano, D. Hudson, Z. Greinke, S. Strasburg (keeper)
RP - M. Rivera, C. Perez, K. Farnsworth

LEAGUE INFO:
H2H, PTS

Singles (1B) 1
Doubles (2B) 2
Triples (3B) 3
Home Runs (HR) 4
Walks (BB) 1
Runs Scored (R) 1
Runs Batted In (RBI) 1
Stolen Bases (SB) 2
Strikeouts (K) -1
Intentional Walks (IBB) 1
Caught Stealing (CS) -2
Hitting for the Cycle (CYC) 15

Innings Pitched (IP) 0.75
Earned Runs (ER) -1
Wins (W) 10
Losses (L) -5
Saves (SV) 8
Blown Saves (BS) -3
Strikeouts (K) 1
Shutouts (SO) 10
Complete Games (CG) 5
Quality Starts (QS) 3
No Hitters (NH) 15
Perfect Games (PG) 20

Heck no...you should be able to get a lot more for Votto...I would wait and make sure Ike is healthy also before trading Votto

[ytorf]

I wouldn't do it either. Once Greinke builds up stamina your pitching will look a lot better.

I feel like a strong offense is more important in H2H points. Plus there's almost always a decent spot starter on the WW.

Help with mine? viewtopic.php?f=26&t=431385

[jpbusta]

I never like getting multiple descent players for my stud. Even though Alexei and Marcum are great, I wouldn't give up Votto for them.

[jtwins9]

Thanks - all very helpful...I chose NOT to make this deal....

thoughts on the following:

votto/liriano for lincecum/smoak...??

[Metric81]

Absolutely not! Nowhere near enough to give up Votto.

[zomberg]

You can't seeme, but I'm shaking my head no. Vigorously.

[jtwins9]

hahaha....no to the lincecum for votto? really? is it that bad of a deal?

pitching really does rule our league....again, i'm on the fence so i respect all opinions...but i didn't think it was a vigorous head shaker!

[zomberg]

hahaha....no to the lincecum for votto? really? is it that bad of a deal?

pitching really does rule our league....again, i'm on the fence so i respect all opinions...but i didn't think it was a vigorous head shaker!

Sorry, that was for the first offer. I didn't read down the post enough.

Hmm...Lincecum, huh? How does pitching rule your league? i.e. How many more points do aces have than solid starters? I'm functioning on too little sleep to calculate the math in my head...