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Postby West » Fri May 20, 2011 6:39 am

Just wanted to get some discussion on this kid, of whom I know little about. He wasn't a top prospect coming up and was quite old for the levels he was at in the minors, but he's posted solid numbers in a small sample size thus far.

I'm not expecting big things, but I'm curious as to why are hitters so befuddled by him thus far. By all accounts he has a deceptive delivery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lUBssBXVr4&
but just average stuff.
Obviously the book isn't out on him yet so once hitters see him a few times his numbers are bound to normalize. He's also got just a .155 BABIP so far, so his miniscule ratios will not continue. But will he post merely respectable numbers the rest of the way out? I grabbed him in my H2H mixed league last week.

He hasn't K'd a ton of guys in an outing yet but he showed good strikeout potential in the minors, despite a fastball that doesn't crack 90. He also has a very good 49.3% GB ratio which helps explain why he's been so good at getting guys out thus far. I'm wondering if he can be a Chris Young type in the future.

Regardless, I'm going to throw him out there in my H2H league until he blows up.
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby kimchi_chigae » Fri May 20, 2011 12:11 pm

Interesting guy. My gut feeling is that he will eventually blow up when teams start facing him more often. He has had a good run so far though and I actually expect the K/9 to go up a little. If I remember it correctly, before his first start, he was striking people out at a good rate in relief. Very small sample size though.

He's at Coors his next start. :-o
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby lastingsgriller » Fri May 20, 2011 12:26 pm

from what I've noticed, he' kinda just about the hidden ball trick.. i think he'll get figured out and pounded in time.
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby coyotedelmar » Fri May 20, 2011 4:07 pm

I didn't see his start yesterday, but I saw his first start. In the first start, to my untrained eye, it seemed he had a good downward motion on pitches and for the most part left pitches down in the zone (which is what likely helped), though towards the end of the 4th, and after I noticed more pitches getting left up, and the curve started to hang. Was lucky not to get torched after the 4th that day imo.

An article on the local website shows others agreeing with what has been said here, the delivery plays a part. Also mentions he hits his spots which helps:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamond ... enter.html

"The deception plays a big part of it," Braves catcher Brian McCann said. "The first time facing a guy like that, it's always going to go in favor of the pitcher. I thought he pitched a great game. He kept the ball down, in the bottom of the zone, and elevated it when we had to."

Collmenter induced several foul-outs and pop-ups, for which he credited his tomahawk-like delivery. He started the game with back-to-back, pop-up fouls caught by catcher Miguel Montero.


"Watching from center field, honestly, I can count on one hand how many times he's missed a spot," Young said.
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby kimchi_chigae » Fri May 20, 2011 4:21 pm

Until he gets rocked, I'd start him everytime in H2H and in favourable matchups in roto.
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby Padsin05 » Fri May 20, 2011 4:28 pm

hes nice, but gimme a guy who can at least k 7/9
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby jsphlly » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:11 am

Scoreless at home in 20.1 IP

Flirting with a .174 BABIP, 88.8 LOB% and only a 5.59 K/9

Minor league record indicates he might be a higher K/9 guy eventually

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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby J35J » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:15 am

jsphlly wrote:Flirting with a .174 BABIP, 88.8 LOB% and only a 5.59 K/9

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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby fast dogs » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:50 pm

Giants aren't scoring and he's had success at home. This will be the first time I've started him
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Re: Josh Collmenter

Postby shmolex » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:47 pm

jsphlly wrote:Scoreless at home in 20.1 IP

Flirting with a .174 BABIP, 88.8 LOB% and only a 5.59 K/9

Minor league record indicates he might be a higher K/9 guy eventually

Next start at home vs. SF - Sit or Start?


you should not bench any starter vs SF
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