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Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby Cadd » Fri May 13, 2011 8:22 pm

When a pitcher throws a pitch and someone hits a home run, is it counted as an "earned run?"
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby kempy » Sat May 14, 2011 11:21 am

Yes, as well as any players on base who that pitcher is responsible for. However, if there are players on base that the current pitcher who let up the home run inhereted from the previous pitcher, or are on base due to an error, they are not counted as the current pitcher's earned runs.
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby fast dogs » Sat May 14, 2011 2:54 pm

any runs that score after the 3rd out should have occurred even HR's are unearned
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby WaCougMBS » Sat May 14, 2011 4:33 pm

fast dogs wrote:any runs that score after the 3rd out should have occurred even HR's are unearned


I believe this is only true for team ERA, but the homer (and concurrent earned run) still counts against the pitcher who allowed it regardless of how the game situation got to that point. I am not 100% sure, but pretty confident this is the case (don't want to do any digging cause I'm lazy right now) ;-)
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby mixmastamikal » Mon May 16, 2011 1:39 am

I thought this as well but i am fairly certain a pitcher in my league allowed a home run but was not charged with an earned run this week and i was a bit confused about it I will try to find out who it was........
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby mixmastamikal » Mon May 16, 2011 1:42 am

It was Cueto
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby WaCougMBS » Mon May 16, 2011 1:43 am

fast dogs wrote:any runs that score after the 3rd out should have occurred even HR's are unearned


Did a bit more digging into this after my interests were piqued, and this is actually right as far as I can tell. IF the error happens with 2 outs, ALL runs scored afterwards are unearned, including any homers. This doesn't apply with one out on a double-play ball, however, because you can't assume a double play's completion.
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Re: Are home runs "earned runs?"

Postby fishingmn » Mon May 16, 2011 5:10 pm

WaCougMBS wrote:
fast dogs wrote:any runs that score after the 3rd out should have occurred even HR's are unearned


Did a bit more digging into this after my interests were piqued, and this is actually right as far as I can tell. IF the error happens with 2 outs, ALL runs scored afterwards are unearned, including any homers. This doesn't apply with one out on a double-play ball, however, because you can't assume a double play's completion.


No - that's not right.

It doesn't matter when the error happened - any home run hit after the 3rd out should have occurred is unearned.

Examples -

- First batter gets on base via error. Next 2 batters strike out. 4th batter hits home run. Those 2 runs are BOTH unearned. It doesn't matter when the error occurred. It just matters that the 3rd out should have been recorded and then all future runs, including home runs, are unearned.
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