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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby jeffkoz12 » Fri May 13, 2011 12:32 pm

Tough call. Rollins is a big step down from HanRam, IMO, but you're getting great stuff in the other three spots.

Waiting only complicates things though. You are also buying relatively low on Youk. He could heat up and get the other owner to reconsider.

Do it if you're committed to selling Hanley, and won't regret it later when he heats up (and he will heat up)
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby jasonpm311 » Sun May 15, 2011 4:16 pm

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? I will help in return guaranteed. Thanks.
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby jasonpm311 » Mon May 16, 2011 4:50 pm

Any other opinions out there on this one? Rest assured, all help will be returned, guaranteed. Thanks!
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Mon May 16, 2011 4:56 pm

kidsilk wrote:It's not bad but I think you would be selling Hanley low here if you did this deal. Hanley is one of those special players like Pujols who you have to be overwhelmed to trade. I wouldn't do it.

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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby jasonpm311 » Mon May 16, 2011 5:21 pm

So Hanley's drop off last year, and big time struggles all this year don't concern you guys at all?? Now they have him batting 2nd...no worry whatsoever? Honestly, I'm kinda freaked out about my 2nd overall pick sucking ass.
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Mon May 16, 2011 8:26 pm

jasonpm311 wrote:So Hanley's drop off last year, and big time struggles all this year don't concern you guys at all?? Now they have him batting 2nd...no worry whatsoever? Honestly, I'm kinda freaked out about my 2nd overall pick sucking ass.


Yes they do.

On a good note, his .252 babip is way under his career .342.
And he's still on a 30 sb pace.

The bad news is he may be only a 18-20 hr guy now.
Why?
51% GB rate last year, and a staggering 57% this year. (44% career norm)
You can't hit a lot of hrs with a low fly ball rate.
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby jasonpm311 » Tue May 17, 2011 12:06 am

I'm screwed. Hanley's going to take my team to the toilet this year. How about this? What if I post my roster and the guy's who desperately wants Hanley? Do you guys think you could think of an offer that'd be a great deal for me? Thank you guys SO much! I will gladly help in any way I can in return, guaranteed. This could be my season right here. It's a 12-team H2H mixed league, and the categories are Hitting: R, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG; Pitching: K, QS, SV , ERA, WHIP, and K/BB

Mine:

C John Buck, Fla C
1B Mark Trumbo, LAA 1B
2B Robinson Cano, NYY 2B
3B Jose Bautista, Tor 3B, OF
SS Hanley Ramirez, Fla SS
OF Ichiro Suzuki, Sea OF
OF Carlos Beltran, NYM OF
OF Melky Cabrera, KC OF
UTIL Vladimir Guerrero, Bal DH
UTIL Todd Helton, Col 1B
Bench Shane Victorino, Phi OF DTD
Bench Anthony Rizzo, SD 1B
DL Geovany Soto*, ChC C DL15
DL David Freese*, StL 3B DL15

PITCHERS
P Matt Capps, Min RP
P Edwin Jackson, CWS SP
P John Axford, Mil RP
SP David Price, TB SP
SP Michael Pineda, Sea SP
RP Craig Kimbrel, Atl RP
RP Fernando Salas, StL RP
Bench Jon Lester, Bos SP
Bench Madison Bumgarner, SF SP
Bench Tim Hudson, Atl SP
Bench John Danks, CWS SP

His:

C J.P. Arencibia, Tor C
1B Eric Hosmer, KC 1B
2B Ian Kinsler, Tex 2B
3B Kevin Youkilis, Bos 1B, 3B
SS Jimmy Rollins, Phi SS
OF Jay Bruce, Cin OF
OF Nick Markakis, Bal OF
OF Alex Gordon, KC OF
UTIL Carlos Pena, ChC 1B
UTIL Kosuke Fukudome, ChC OF
Bench David Wright, NYM 3B DTD
DL Chase Utley*, Phi 2B DL15

PITCHERS:

P Josh Johnson, Fla SP
P Alex White, Cle SP
SP Ervin Santana, LAA SP
SP Ian Kennedy, Ari SP
RP Joel Hanrahan, Pit RP
RP Kevin Gregg, Bal RP
Bench Cole Hamels, Phi SP
Bench Roy Oswalt, Phi SP
Bench Ricky Nolasco, Fla SP
Bench Brian Matusz*, Bal SP DL15
Bench Alexi Ogando, Tex RP, SP
Bench Chris Narveson, Mil RP, SP
DL Brandon Lyon*, Hou RP DL15
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby jasonpm311 » Tue May 17, 2011 7:35 am

Does anyone have any thoughts on this one? Any potential trades I can make are very much appreciated. Thanks. Post your links so I can help in return.
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby kaiser » Tue May 17, 2011 8:09 am

kidsilk wrote:It's not bad but I think you would be selling Hanley low here if you did this deal. Hanley is one of those special players like Pujols who you have to be overwhelmed to trade. I wouldn't do it.


Kidsilk is right. Don't bail on Hanley. If he goes on a monster hot streak after starting so poorly, it won't be the first time.

If anything, people should be buying low on Hanley right now.
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Re: Big time Hanley trade...WHIR

Postby Eastman19 » Tue May 17, 2011 10:11 am

I would do it in a heartbeat...Hanley is done...He is not the same player he used to be. He is so overrated anymore becuase of his position. He has done nothing the last 2 years to justify a 1st overall pick in the draft, He is not a stud anymore in my opinion. Rollins is getting old but his numbers wont be that way off from Hanley's trust me. Hanley is under achieving.
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