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Updated: 3 for 1 Trade Help WHIR

Postby Conrax » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:10 pm

This is for a 12 teams H2H most categories league, 18 player keeper.
Scoring Categories:
Batters: AVG,R,HR,RBI,SB
Pitchers: K,W,SV,WHIP,ERA

This trade declined:
I give up Jay Bruce and Carl Crawford
I get Jason Heyward and Cole Hamel

New Trade Offer:
I give up Carl Crawford
I get Gordon Beckman, Cole Hamels, and Chris Coughlan

I this enough and my actual question what is Carl Crawford's value because if I can get value I am probably going to trade him because he has been horrible so far.

My Roster:
C Jorge Posada, NYY C, DH
1B Billy Butler, KC 1B, DH
2B Ian Kinsler, Tex 2B
3B Alex Rodriguez, NYY 3B
SS Jimmy Rollins, Phi SS
IF Ryan Roberts, Ari LF, 3B
LF Logan Morrison, Fla LF
CF Colby Rasmus, StL CF
RF Jay Bruce, Cin RF
OF Grady Sizemore, Cle CF
BE Carl Crawford, Bos LF
BE Adam LaRoche, Was 1B
BE Maicer Izturis, LAA 2B, 3B, SS
BE Derrek Lee, Bal 1B
BE Yunel Escobar, Tor SS
BE Jose Lopez, Col 3B
BE Jerry Hairston Jr., Was SS, 2B
BE Jason Bay, NYM LF
DL Ryan Zimmerman*, Was 3B

SP Max Scherzer, Det SP
SP Ted Lilly
SP Bronson Arroyo
SP James Shields
SP Dallas Braden
RP Jonathan Broxton
RP JJ Putz
BE Wade Davis
BE Brandon Beachy, Atl SP
BE Kyle McClellan
DL Brandon Webb
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Re: Trade Help WHIR

Postby 43stunt » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:31 pm

I would give it some time on Crawford. He's a better all around 5-category player than Heyward. In BOS lineup, he's going to get plenty of R, RBI, probably SB, too. I think you're giving up more in this deal.
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Re: Trade Help WHIR

Postby Rance Mulliniks » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:33 pm

While I agree that you should be looking to upgrade your SP, I think you're not getting enough for Crawford here. Though he has struggled, Crawford was a bona fide first round pick in fantasy drafts. I'd expect at least first or second round value for him, which you wouldn't be getting in J-Hey and Hamels. I'd hold out for more (or give Crawford some time to reestablish value).
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Re: Trade Help WHIR

Postby SleuterBomber » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:39 pm

I don't like this trade. You are selling low on Crawford, a top 5 pick this year.

He's off to a slow start but he is too good of a player NOT to snap out of it. He is also in a nasty lineup.

Cole Hamels is a beast but Jay Bruce could produce ~ equal with Heyward this year, and if you are going to trade Crawford it needs to be for Felix, Lincecum, or Halladay.

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Re: Trade Help WHIR

Postby TrippySG » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:43 am

Nope, wouldnt do this. If the pitchers name was Lincecum/Halladay, heck Id even take Jiminez there, I probably would though. Hamels is probably this guys 2nd best pitcher, try and counter offer with his best pitcher in the mix. If you cant do this walk away from the trade. I know youre frustrated with Crawford, I would be too, but dont underestimate his ability. Players with that kind of talent always slip out of their funk. If need be, put him on the bench for a little while and ride it out, if you still dont want him in your OF trade him when he has value.

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Re: Trade Help WHIR

Postby kaiser » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:50 am

You are giving up too much. Crawford is starting to heat up. You'll regret moving him if you do it now.

Please help here. Should I give Ichiro and Marmol to get Granderson and Valverde?
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Re: Trade Help WHIR

Postby Conrax » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:41 pm

Update:
New Trade Offer:
I give up Carl Crawford
I get Gordon Beckman, Cole Hamels, and Chris Coughlan

Will this be enough to trade Crawford?

To answer questions
Trading partner's Pitchers:
SP Cole Hamels, Phi SP
SP Alexi Ogando, Tex RP, SP
SP Kyle Lohse, StL SP
SP Randy Wolf, Mil SP
SP Bartolo Colon, NYY SP
RP Carlos Marmol, ChC RP
RP Francisco Rodriguez, NYM RP
Bench Matt Cain, SF SP
Bench Kyle Drabek, Tor SP
Bench Jordan Walden, LAA RP
Bench Bud Norris, Hou SP

So no he really doesn't have a better pitcher unless I wish to take a prospect like Drabek or roll the dice long term with Lohse and Ogando.

Also, Crawford has been on the bench since April 18th, I have been afforded that luxury because of acquiring guys like Roberts and Morrison, and having Sizemore and Bay come back from their DL stints and all of them having their hot bats.
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Re: Updated: 3 for 1 Trade Help WHIR

Postby FrunK » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:27 pm

thanks for your help with mine

i have to agree with everyone here. I, myself am trying to buy low on crawford from someone and this is low. yes, Hamels is good, but not good enough for crawford. coughlin is no big deal and i just dropped beckham myself. Hamels looks like his best pitcher so if he really wants crawford then offer crawford for hamels and a good bat if ur gonna give up on crawford, otherwise ill wait it out also
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