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Postby j24jags » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:40 am

Hey guys,

I offered this manager my Brandon Phillips + Matt Garza for his Robinson Cano. He declined but said he thought it was a fair trade and seemed receptive to the offer. His team is off to a slow start (11th out of 12), so I'm hoping I can make a trade with him if he slips into panic mode. My team is listed below. I know that my pitching would be able to handle the loss of Garza, but what if I were to lose Latos or Scherzer?

12-Team 5x5 Roto Non-Keeper
My Team
C McCann
1B Teixeira
2B Phillips
3B Freese
SS A. Cabrera
OF Bruce
OF Carlos Lee
OF Bourne
UTL Trumbo
BN Sands
DL Longoria

SP Cain
SP Latos
RP Broxton
RP Burnett
P Franklin
P Motte
P Farnsworth
BN Scherzer
BN Garza
BN Lohse
BN Zimmermann
DL Santana

I'd love to hear your guys input so basically, should I trade Phillips + Latos for Cano, Phillips + Scherzer for Cano, or would I have to demand a pitcher in return in the deal?

Thanks, leave a link ;-D
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby timaxman » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:48 am

I would keep Scherzer, but latos has not looked sharp at all this year, I would do that trade.


Also I honestly feel garza is extremely overvalued, if he wanted I would toss in garza as well and pick up a better pitcher off the waiver wire.
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby iaoto » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:50 am

i think phillips and scherzer seems like a better trade for cano. is this a keeper league? if so, i would try with phillips and lohse and hold on to scherzer.

on another note, why not try to upgrade your OF with your pitching instead?
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby j24jags » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:03 am

Thanks for your input guys. I just edited my post, I should have mentioned orginally this is not a keeper league. As for the Lohse idea, I doubt he would bite, I think most people view Garza as a better bet than him, but I guess it is worth a try. As for the OF question, I have been asking around and trying to get a feel, but the only OF who is readily available is Berkman and I think his value is too high for my liking right now.
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby StayCalmandCarryOn » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:10 am

Would it be possible to do the dreaded 3 for 1? Lohse, Garza, and Phillips for Cano?
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby j24jags » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:20 am

StayCalmandCarryOn wrote:Would it be possible to do the dreaded 3 for 1? Lohse, Garza, and Phillips for Cano?

To be honest I'm not sure, I would certainly jump on that. I'm more worried about losing Scherzer/Latos though.
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby StayCalmandCarryOn » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:23 am

If you want to get in the chatroom and talk about it more in depth, I'm online.

I realize 3 for 1s look bad, but Lohse is super hot right now. Depending on the competency of your opponent, he might consider it.
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby Xylo » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:24 am

I don't think I'd do this deal. If it were me, I'd hold onto Phillips and, somewhere down the line, upgrade my OF with my pitching. Your pitching staff could be great, but the only real sure thing you have in your rotation is Cain. Latos, Scherzer, Lohse, Garza, and Santana all have little question marks of their own. Cano is an awesome 2B, but I think Phillips is more than serviceable. Garza has been a strikeout machine since crossing over to the NL and is coming off a huge game earlier in the week. I like Scherzer and Latos and that's why I'd keep them. You don't know what you're getting with Lohse and Zimmermann this year and I'm not so sure the upgrade at second is worth the hassle if a few of your pitchers don't really pan out this year.
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby baseballfan89 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:32 am

Cano for Phillips + Latos/Scherzer/Garza

Definitely go through with this trade... toss up between the three heres my breakdown which you might already know about:

- all three are strikeout machines, all three have a shot at 200Ks
- Scherzer is hot, and has matched up against the top teams already and come out with a win. I would certainly consider keeping him. His team is able to provide him runs which is huge
- I feel as if it should be almost a coin flip between Garza and Latos. Garza i agree is overvalued by a mile, but Latos is back and despite pitching pretty decent he hasn't gotten the games to go his way. It's a really tough choice even for me as I write this, both are good pitchers, but i think its going to come down to you if you want to give up Latos or Garza

What i like to do is talk with the other manager offer him for e.g. Phillips + Latos for Cano + a decent SP in return and try and sell Latos for someone he's not. Like you said, manager might be in panic mode soon so you are saying that you are offering top tier pitcher (which Latos is despite the nay sayers) and would like some kind of pitching back in return!


Help with mine?
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Re: Cano for Phillips Trade, Need Input WHIR

Postby StayCalmandCarryOn » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:33 am

Xylo wrote:I don't think I'd do this deal. If it were me, I'd hold onto Phillips and, somewhere down the line, upgrade my OF with my pitching. Your pitching staff could be great, but the only real sure thing you have in your rotation is Cain. Latos, Scherzer, Lohse, Garza, and Santana all have little question marks of their own. Cano is an awesome 2B, but I think Phillips is more than serviceable. Garza has been a strikeout machine since crossing over to the NL and is coming off a huge game earlier in the week. I like Scherzer and Latos and that's why I'd keep them. You don't know what you're getting with Lohse and Zimmermann this year and I'm not so sure the upgrade at second is worth the hassle if a few of your pitchers don't really pan out this year.


Another option might be considering SS included if you don't believe in Cabrera. He likely won't produce like he has so far. Does the team have any depth there?
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