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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby bigh0rt » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:37 pm

Thread should be retitled: "Daisuke it to Me"
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby coyotedelmar » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:41 pm

I think it was Olney on Mike and Mike this morning (to be honest was dead tired so don't remember), who was saying he thinks the issue with Dice-K is fastballs. If I recall, he was saying that when Dice was in Japan, he threw a ton of breaking pitches, gyro ball, etc. to set up the fastball, but since coming over to the states (and especially recently) he keeps trying to be a fastball pitcher, and with the weak fastball, he gets crushed.

Don't see much of the Red Sox games (whole West coast thing), so anyone agree with that, or is it just Dice-K is pitching like crap overall?
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby cs3 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:36 pm

whats wrong with you guys? really not cool to make fun of daisuke and
pretty messed to rag on the guy, especially when he cant even go home to his native country.
besides, i thought his start was pretty good considering...




...that he was on my opponents team for my H2H matchup, and therefore is pretty much my teams MVP this week!
i love you DiceK!
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby z raptor » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:10 pm

mojoorising wrote:i think his wind up might be faster then his actual fastball



Now, that's FUNNY!!!!!!!!

Hate to say it, but he needs to go and bring up someone from Pawtucket....... ;-D
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby mweir145 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:14 pm

coyotedelmar wrote:I think it was Olney on Mike and Mike this morning (to be honest was dead tired so don't remember), who was saying he thinks the issue with Dice-K is fastballs. If I recall, he was saying that when Dice was in Japan, he threw a ton of breaking pitches, gyro ball, etc. to set up the fastball, but since coming over to the states (and especially recently) he keeps trying to be a fastball pitcher, and with the weak fastball, he gets crushed.

That's all he does in the majors, too. He throws a ton of crap up, hoping that hackers will swing. But most major leaguers are good enough to lay off his breaking stuff and hit his bad fastball (or they just one of the many walks he gives out). It's amazing to me that he's even managed to be as successful as he has so far in this league.
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby ichirosan » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:34 pm

garf112 wrote:He has never been on any of my fantasy teams and he we will never be on my team, unless it is in one of those bizarro leagues where you want the worst stats.


I'm actually in one of those bizarro leagues, but I didn't go after him because losses are really valuable and I thought the Red Sox were going to, you know, be good this year :-?
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby Cream » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:57 pm

z raptor wrote:
mojoorising wrote:i think his wind up might be faster then his actual fastball



Now, that's FUNNY!!!!!!!!

Hate to say it, but he needs to go and bring up someone from Pawtucket....... ;-D


His contract prevents him from being sent down to the minors, and they can't trade him. Even if a team was willing to take him, you'd be lucky to get a used bag of syringes for him (can't take credit, heard that on the radio this morning).
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby MasterX1918 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:02 pm

coyotedelmar wrote:I think it was Olney on Mike and Mike this morning (to be honest was dead tired so don't remember), who was saying he thinks the issue with Dice-K is fastballs. If I recall, he was saying that when Dice was in Japan, he threw a ton of breaking pitches, gyro ball, etc. to set up the fastball, but since coming over to the states (and especially recently) he keeps trying to be a fastball pitcher, and with the weak fastball, he gets crushed.

Don't see much of the Red Sox games (whole West coast thing), so anyone agree with that, or is it just Dice-K is pitching like crap overall?

his slider and splitter have been crap, so he's been relying heavily on that mighty 88 mph fastball of his (that doesn't have nearly as much cut as it used to), complimented by an 85 mph change up. :-P Slider cutter used to be his bread and butter, at least in was when he first came over.
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby nsulham » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:43 pm

Give credit where it's due. The Dice Man spun a gem today.

That being said, please do not be fooled by this start. He's very likely to poop the bed next time around.
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Re: Nothin like a little Daisuke to cure what ails ya

Postby thedude » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:46 pm

Matsuzaka is historically so much better on extended rest.
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