knapplc wrote:Also, I think people are on the right track that Obama is "beatable" in 2012. He failed to follow through on his "hopey/changey" (to quote Sarah Palin) stuff, his transparent government is a brick wall, Guantanamo is still open (and they're doing military tribunals), and overall the country is kinda blah. So he's not untouchable.
The problem is, who's going to beat him? It won't be Palin and/or Trump, because neither are going to run. It won't be Romney, because he was the architect of Obamacare 0.1 Beta. Who are the Republicans going to throw out there to beat this guy? Frankly, I don't see a single "name" that can beat him, unless McCain runs again and chooses a real VP candidate.
I can't see the Tea Party or any other third party coming up with a viable candidate, but a lot can change. That door isn't closed, it's just unlikely.
Was Obama, in early 2007, considered a likely winner? I believe that Clinton was still considered the favorite for the nomination at this point 4 years ago.
Honestly, the second Bush won in 2004 I figured Obama would win in 2008. Bush was just so ridiculous to even get in a second time that people would be so sick of Republicans and looking for a new direction, which was Obama. And When Obama won in 2008, I figured Romney would win in 2012. There's really nothing that Obama could have done to live up to the hype that was created around him. For the insane amount of conjecture that goes on basically non stop, it all seems very predictable. It's a goldmine for news channels though.
knapplc wrote:Also, I think people are on the right track that Obama is "beatable" in 2012. He failed to follow through on his "hopey/changey" (to quote Sarah Palin) stuff, his transparent government is a brick wall, Guantanamo is still open (and they're doing military tribunals), and overall the country is kinda blah. So he's not untouchable.
The problem is, who's going to beat him? It won't be Palin and/or Trump, because neither are going to run. It won't be Romney, because he was the architect of Obamacare 0.1 Beta. Who are the Republicans going to throw out there to beat this guy? Frankly, I don't see a single "name" that can beat him, unless McCain runs again and chooses a real VP candidate.
I can't see the Tea Party or any other third party coming up with a viable candidate, but a lot can change. That door isn't closed, it's just unlikely.
Was Obama, in early 2007, considered a likely winner? I believe that Clinton was still considered the favorite for the nomination at this point 4 years ago.
Honestly, the second Bush won in 2004 I figured Obama would win in 2008. Bush was just so ridiculous to even get in a second time that people would be so sick of Republicans and looking for a new direction, which was Obama. And When Obama won in 2008, I figured Romney would win in 2012. There's really nothing that Obama could have done to live up to the hype that was created around him. For the insane amount of conjecture that goes on basically non stop, it all seems very predictable. It's a goldmine for news channels though.
Romney would be my other pick right now. I was on the record on a radio program that I used to work for predicting Obama as the next president on July 27, 2004. I should have turned that into a career as a political prognosticator.
Dan Lambskin wrote:whatever happened to Bobby Jindal?
Don't know, but I think Jindal is the Republicans' poster child to show that their base aren't racist and that he's their version of Obama. From what I understand, he's not quite as loony as Palin, but loony all the same.
He gave the official Republican response to Obama's 2009 State of the Union and it was so bad (and universally panned by pretty much everyone on both sides) that it essentially submarined his political career, at least in terms of running for President.
Dan Lambskin wrote:whatever happened to Bobby Jindal?
Don't know, but I think Jindal is the Republicans' poster child to show that their base aren't racist and that he's their version of Obama. From what I understand, he's not quite as loony as Palin, but loony all the same.
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