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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby bigken117 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:33 pm

Neither Pailin nor Trump will get the nod, so it's a moot point. Also Trump isn't even an entrepreneur. It was his dad's company.

The roast of Trump was tremendous ;-D
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby Madison » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:48 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:i think you underestimate how much people don't like to admit they were wrong.


Who would be admitting what? Obamacare does zero to reduce the cost of health care and it is bankrupting the middle class in the process. So unless you mean Obama will come out and say he was wrong, then I have no idea who you are talking about.

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Anyhow, I doubt there's a Republican contender that appeals to anyone but their base to challenge Obama, unless one really comes across as more pragmatic than the usual conservative in the primaries.


I agree that the problem is big, but it can be fixed if done correctly. What Obama did is a joke though, it doesn't even begin to touch the problem.

GiantsFan14 wrote: Stupid two party system.


This I agree with. If people would quit voting for a party simply because of the party's name (like sheep) and start voting for the people that they think could/would do the best job, we would all be better off. I'm not saying voting 3rd party is the way to go all the time or anything, but voting for a Dem simply because he/she is a Dem (or voting Rep simply because he/she is a Rep) is stupid. Vote for the best person out of all of the candidates (or in some elections, the lesser of the evils).
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:36 pm

Madison wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:i think you underestimate how much people don't like to admit they were wrong.


Who would be admitting what? Obamacare does zero to reduce the cost of health care and it is bankrupting the middle class in the process. So unless you mean Obama will come out and say he was wrong, then I have no idea who you are talking about.


i'm saying the obama fanboys who thought he would bring all this amazing change and voted for him in the first place are not going to want to admit they were wrong. they'll fool themselves into thinking that bush left the country too screwed up and obama just needs more time.
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby jfg » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:23 pm

A lot of Republicans and Tea Partiers are making a lot of moderates look back to the left. If you would have asked me 6 months ago, I would have said Obama would have gone down fighting in the next election. Now, I think he wins pretty easily. Republicans have ticked off a lot of people lately. People always love the ideals of conservatism until they are the ones affected by it and that's not saying that conservatism is a bad thing, just that most people are only conservative with other people's money and livelihoods.
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby Madison » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:48 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:i'm saying the obama fanboys who thought he would bring all this amazing change and voted for him in the first place are not going to want to admit they were wrong. they'll fool themselves into thinking that bush left the country too screwed up and obama just needs more time.


Ah, very cool. :-) ;-D
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby thedude » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:51 pm

jfg wrote:A lot of Republicans and Tea Partiers are making a lot of moderates look back to the left.


Is 3 months time enough to change anybody's opinion?
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby jfg » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:05 am

Have you met American moderates?
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:54 am

thedude wrote:
jfg wrote:A lot of Republicans and Tea Partiers are making a lot of moderates look back to the left.


Is 3 months time enough to change anybody's opinion?

Republicans and Tea Partiers are taking credit for the economic recovery in 3 month, so I guess anything's possible. Even giant ants in freakin' top hats dancing around because in this political universe it seems like there's room for all kinds of weird crap.
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby wrveres » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:24 am

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:You mean like the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post?
the Wall Street Journal doesn't endorse candidates, and the Washington Post endorsed John Kerry in 2004, and Barrack Obama in 2008.

try again. :-)
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Re: Donald Trump for President?

Postby wrveres » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:26 am

thedude wrote:
jfg wrote:A lot of Republicans and Tea Partiers are making a lot of moderates look back to the left.
Is 3 months time enough to change anybody's opinion?
Sure. McCain was leading in all the polls until the Wall Street collapse.
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