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Re: Ichiro & Scherzer for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby kaiser » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:40 pm

He is pushing for Dan Haren and Ichiro. I don't know if I can go there. Haren is my #2 SP. I'd still have a solid rotation, but is this too much for Hamilton? HELP!

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C Mike Napoli, Tex C, 1B
1B Joey Votto, Cin 1B
2B Robinson Cano, NYY 2B
3B Edwin Encarnacion, Tor 3B
SS Ian Desmond, Was SS
2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera, Cle SS
1B/3B Kevin Youkilis, Bos 1B
OF Shin-Soo Choo, Cle OF
OF Ichiro Suzuki, Sea OF
OF Brett Gardner, NYY OF
OF Andres Torres, SF OF
OF Manny Ramirez, TB OF, DH
UTIL Mitch Moreland, Tex 1B
P Justin Verlander, Det SP
P Dan Haren, LAA SP
P Carlos Marmol, ChC RP
P Max Scherzer, Det SP
P Ted Lilly, LAD SP
P Hiroki Kuroda, LAD SP
P Jhoulys Chacin, Col SP
P Madison Bumgarner, SF SP
P Joel Hanrahan, Pit RP
Bench Chase Utley*, Phi 2B DL15
Bench Brandon Morrow*, Tor SP DL15
Bench Brennan Boesch, Det OF
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby HOOTIE » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:49 pm

I would take Hamilton. Too be honest, i like Scherzer over Haren.
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby dubstar » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:53 pm

I really like Scherzer, but you have to do it. You don't lose anything with Ichiro that you can't gain by others on your team. And your staff can take the blow of losing Max, you have very good pitching. Verlander/Haren for K's, Lilly/Kuroda for WHIP. And Chacin could be big this year. Go for it!

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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby kaiser » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:08 pm

Just to be clear, the deal currently on the table is:

I give Ichiro and Dan Haren

I get Josh Hamilton
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby colt4523 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:11 pm

I would do it and hope Hamilton lasts the entire year.
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby unkle » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:54 pm

youre right that you need power. i'd gamble in a roto league hamilton gives you a ton before he gets injured. i think its easier to mix and match pitchers than get a power bat off waiver wires. ichiro youre know what youre getting ditto for haren, but hamilton could put you over the top

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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby Rance Mulliniks » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:08 pm

I really like getting Hamilton. If you could give Scherzer instead of Haren, I'd do it for sure. I'd probably still do it with Haren involved.
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby dubstar » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:27 pm

I'd still do it for Haren. Scherzer could easily have the same year that Haren can.
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby sigriffey » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:56 pm

I'd still do it. Remember that Haren tends to tire as the year progresses anyway, so this is a solid move.
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Re: UPDATED:Ichiro & HAREN for Hamilton? ALL HELP RETURNED

Postby sinicalypse » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:09 pm

I'd do it. Haren is starting off good but anyone who knows Dan Haren knows that his 2nd halves are god-awful... last year was Bizarro-World Dan Haren in that he was utter marinated team-killing crap in the first half (literally, you drafted him like a SP cornerstone and by the 2nd half he had nuked his trade value and had helped your era likely get into the high-3s and by the time he did anything it was way too late) and I think you can withstand the blow of losing haren cuz you've got verlander, scherzer (who still has kinks to work out) jhoulys chacin, and bumgarner... and call it a hunch someone like michael pineda or kyle drabek could be floating around your league... hell brandon beachy looked decent and mike minor is showing up for a few starts while jair jurrjens deals with the pain of being named jair, among other things.

ichiro has gotten off to a quick start and you know what you're going to get with him... .320+ and 30+ steals.. ichiro has upside as to where he could go like .340 with 40 steals, but he's not going to bowl you over with power, which is what you've stated you're looking for. hamilton is obviously an injury risk as we all know, but despite missing time last year he still managed a .350/30/100 type bender that allowed him to attain a MVP. so there's inherent risk involved, but if your league is that tight and competitive obivously you gotta take chances and even if hamilton gets injured i think if you're savvy and play the waiver wires/FA lists and rotate in some kids you can easily make up for haren.... and losing ichiro would suck, but he isn't an OMFG ned of the world blow to your team. again, this is presuming that josh hamilton gets hurt which is the worst case scenario.

i'd give it a go... nelson cruz is a streaky dude, but he's one of my favorite roidmonsters in teh game so short of testing positive for PEDs, he's gonna be in that lineup with a resurgent kinsler and the perennially productive michael young and "please hit well" beltre so he'll have a chance to hit .300+ score 100+ runs hit 30+ HR and drive in 100+ RBI, annual injuries notwithstanding.

so i'd say to make the move, but make the move assuming that akin to carlos boozer in basketball there will be a DL trip for hamilton and hopefully if you're a savvy fantasy player you can stock up your team with depth to the point where you can weather the storm. you're trading two nice players who won't make-or-break your team for a guy who can be a game-changer, even at the OF position... so i'd be inclined to go for it, but i'd definitely expect the worst and stay up on my WW/FA game.

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