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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby StlSluggers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:01 am

Atomic reactors are not particularly dangerous. They cannot cause a nuclear blast — this is a common misconception. They can leak radiation, but this has happened only a couple times, and except at Chernobyl, radiation leaks from power reactors have had only slight impact on public health.

The sort of radiation you would experience standing close to an exposed atomic reactor is deadly, which is why being a reactor-station worker is a perilous occupation. But the kind of radiation that extends more than a few hundred yards away is less dangerous than a medical X-ray.
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Atomic power causes significantly less harm than fossil fuel. In 2010, 11 people were killed in the Deepwater Horizon oil drilling explosion while 29 people died in a coal mine in West Virginia. Nothing so bad has ever happened at an atomic power plant in the United States or European Union.
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This morning, Reuters said the Fukushima situation is “the world’s most serious nuclear accident since the Chernobyl meltdown in Ukraine in 1986”. That statement surely is true, but think what it means — a quarter century of atomic power did no harm at all, and now the major problem in Japan may be resolved with only minor public harm. In the same 25 years, oil and coal use worldwide have killed many thousands of people while triggering global warming.
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Antiquated reactors like Fukushima should be replaced with new nuclear designs. All 104 nuclear power reactors in use in the United States are 30 or more years old, based on obsolete engineering. They need to be demolished and replaced with improved designs. Modern reactors require fewer moving parts than reactors of the 1950s and 1960s, and employ a new idea, “passive” safety. Passive safety means failures are not emergencies — if the cooling pumps fail, as happened at Fukushima, the atomic reaction simply stops. Hit by the same earthquake, a modern reactor would not have gone haywire.

Yet political opposition to construction of new atomic power plants is preventing the spread of improved modern reactors. Yesterday, Germany and Switzerland said they would postpone plans to tear down obsolete reactors and replace them with modern designs. Attempts in the U.S. to obtain political permission to demolish obsolete reactors, in favor of new systems, are likely to be set back.

This is exactly the wrong conclusion. If the Japan accidents produce a new wave of opposition to new reactor construction, the result will be to lock into place a profusion of obsolete reactors with antiquated engineering. Japan should have replaced the Fukushima reactors with a modern station years ago. Will other nations refuse to act, and wait till the next obsolete reactor fails?

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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby bleach168 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:57 pm

There is a lot of fear hitting the markets.

I used it as an opportunity to buy. ;-D
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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby StlSluggers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:02 pm

Ditto. I posted my Roth and 529 contributions today. :-)
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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby thedude » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:12 pm

The chief of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said Wednesday that all the water is gone from one of the spent fuel pools at Japan's most troubled nuclear plant, but Japanese officials denied it.

If NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko is correct, this would mean there's nothing to stop the fuel rods from getting hotter and ultimately melting down. The outer shell of the rods could also ignite with enough force to propel the radioactive fuel inside over a wide area.




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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby lastingsgriller » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:55 pm

thedude wrote:
The chief of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said Wednesday that all the water is gone from one of the spent fuel pools at Japan's most troubled nuclear plant, but Japanese officials denied it.

If NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko is correct, this would mean there's nothing to stop the fuel rods from getting hotter and ultimately melting down. The outer shell of the rods could also ignite with enough force to propel the radioactive fuel inside over a wide area.




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umm.... Chernobyl? :-o :-o :-o
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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby kab21 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:45 am

lastingsgriller wrote:[q


umm.... Chernobyl? :-o :-o :-o


Chernobyl was a different design and the reactor physically blew up. And that scattered the radioactive material into the atmosphere. Japan faces a meltdown which could have BIG consequences locally (for example groundwater) but as far as I've heard much, much less (than chernobyl) globally.
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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby wrveres » Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:23 am

kab21 wrote:Chernobyl was a different design and the reactor physically blew up. And that scattered the radioactive material into the atmosphere. Japan faces a meltdown which could have BIG consequences locally (for example groundwater) but as far as I've heard much, much less (than chernobyl) globally.

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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby StlSluggers » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:39 pm

This earthquake released a surface energy (Me) of 1.9±0.5×1017 joules,[43] dissipated as shaking and tsunamic energy, which is nearly double that of the 9.1-magnitude 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami that killed 230,000 people, and flung the 2,600 ton Apung 1 ship 2 to 3 km (1.2 to 1.9 mi) inland. "If we could only harness the [surface] energy from this earthquake, it would power [a] city the size of Los Angeles for an entire year," USGS director Marcia McNutt said in an interview.[44] The total energy released, also known as the seismic moment (M0), was more than 200,000 times the surface energy and was calculated by the USGS at 3.9×1022 joules,[45] slightly less than the 2004 Indian Ocean quake. This is equivalent to 9.32 teratons of TNT, or approximately 600 million times the energy of the Hiroshima bomb.
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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby StlSluggers » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:04 pm

I hadn't seen this video yet.

Notice that when they pan over to the far right of the harbor, some of the boats are beached before the wave hits them.
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Re: Japanese Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster

Postby wrveres » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:22 pm

im telling ya. godzilla.

"A first attempt to plug a cracked concrete shaft that is leaking highly radioactive water into the ocean off Japan failed Saturday, so officials are now exploring alternatives"
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