rotoquest wrote:But that's just me... shrug. In the last two years I've only had one team get buried with my pitching-intensive strategy, and that's cuz in an autopick draft it didn't take an offensive player til round 10.... otherwise, I won every other league I played, barring some goofy condition like moves limits or weekly lineup changes =D
Interesting philosophy. How deep are your hitting & pitching rosters?[/quote]
* cracks beer *
you asked for it, pardon the longevity of the forthcoming response... and oh snaps i have a h2h league autopicking but it's letting me enter the live draft? 22:33 til it starts... this should be interesting... i reckon i'll be the only person live in the draft if it actually lets me pick =D
Welp, admittedly the majority of my leagues are Standard Yahoo 5x5 Roto Autopick Drafts, tho for the Winners League and ones with friends I do live drafts.... I won last year's winners league by 20 points (101.5 to 81.5 then parity ensued =) and I had the first pick so let's look at that one.... those are obviously the deepest leagues, and while they're not OMFG WORLDBEATING they are filled with people who are full of themselves thinking they're the best and they talk a lot of crap in drafts (TOO SOON!!!!) tho b4 we go back to 2010, if you want to see what this year's yield gave me, feel free to see my thread @ viewtopic.php?t=423790
--- i did mess up on closer's tho... i hadn't done any research before the draft and didn't know that billy wagner had retired, which threw me out of whack from 3 for-sure closers to 2+ at the moment. I'll manage to find my a trois like the free-swinger that i am tho =D
2010. I had the first pick in the draft, so I talked a bunch of crap to everyone in the room about how I was going to draft Justin Upton or Miguel Cabrera... of course, I took Albert Pujols. As I said, you want for-sure production in the first round and roid-boy alberto is the epitome of that. So the round went as planned, of note is that Lincecum went #7. I didn't target lincecum last year, as I was expecting his arm to go flying off a la johan santana at some point so I left him and the wainwrights and carpenters out there as red herrings... obviously, my targets for pitching were doc halladay and felix hernandez. the usual suspects go in the first round and into the second. halladay goes at pick 8 in the 2nd round so he's off the board, but I've still got the ability to nab felix hernandez, that I do. I've got back to back picks, so at the time I was all about getting some value at catcher. Mauer went pick #8 which was and obviously now is way too high, so for some odd reason I decided that I would go for Brian McCann to give me a nice ~.275/20/75 floor at the C position, which would put me ahead of most of the league. and it's funny, looking back at the rest of round 3 here are the picks after I took McCann:
grady sizemore, dustin pedroia, CC sabathia, pablo sandoval, ben zobrist, ryan zimmerman, brandon phillips, zack greinke, derek jeter, victor martinez, jimmy rollins.
CC notwithstanding, you can argue I made the best pick of that round... and I went safe. Fortunately, this year you can get McCann circa round 4-5 and flex out your strategy a little bit (this year I went with david price in round 3 cuz i wanted to make sure I had a 1-2 pitching punch)
At the end of round 4 I took Tommy Hanson, who was ~2 horrible starts away from being in the mid-mid/high 2s in ERA (i think he gave up 10 ER to the whitesox and had a start against the reds where he gave up 8 ER in 1.2 IP) and I sandwiched that with mariano rivera, as I wanted a closer who'd get me a filthy ERA/WHIP to go with my overall pitching strategy. last year I targeted rivera 1 and marmol 2 in the closer's race so I wasn't going to miss them.
At the end of round 6, I got adam dunn, who gave me 38/103 which when combined with pujols was as potent a 1-2 offensive punch as one would get in the first 6 rounds of the draft, albeit sandwiched between 2 dominant/esque starters a top-tier catcher and one of the best closers in the game. round 7 I wanted steals so the sandwich pick was chone figgins, who gave me my steals but otherwise blew chunks. btw, round 6 featured such winners as bobby abreu, jason bay, adam lind, nick markakis, and bj upton.
8/9 sandwich = marmol/beckham
10/11 = the "my guy" sandwich, as i always get my favorite hitter and pitcher every single year, vladimir guerrero and carlos zambrano.
12/13 = rajai davis/alexei ramirez
14/15 = garrett jones/bobby jenks (woops)
16/17 = david price (!!) / kyle blanks (yeah)
18/19 = clint barmes / phil hughes
20/21 = ricky romero / everth cabrera
22/23 = drew stubbs / nick swisher
so as you can see like, beckham was my only real miss in the first 10 rounds, then after that save round 12/13 I missed on at least one player in each sandwich, but as long as I got one quality player out of each 2 picks, I knew I could roto the crap out of the league and fill in the blanks, even literally in teh case of kyle blanks =D
within a few weeks, I had brett gardner join the party, cementing my steals empire (i hadn't forgotten the late-09 best-SB-guy-in-the-game performance of rajai davis even during the hard times) and then zambrano was gone, but by may i had jaime garcia and mat latos in the fold, along with sporadic scrap saves.
the revelation was teh 3B hole left by beckham... initially i went with scott rolen, but i decided to roll the dice on jose bautista, who i got with like ~8 HR so he went and done hit 46 for me and turned a hole into a league-best performance. obviously i'm not counting on that this year, but i won this league by 20 points, so even if i don't manage to go from lower 1/2 power offense (i had steals on lock all eyar) to #2 in homeruns, i'm still going to win this league even if i'm in the middle of the pack for HRs/RBIs, as opposed to the 11/9 i finished with. the standings = http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ ... /standings
so all things considered, that was a nearly 1/3 to 40% crap draft last year, but by establishing the foundation of dominating pitching i was able to work around my weaknesses and like, once i got up a projected 100-120 IP over the limit i was able to banish phil hughes when nobody would trade anything decent for him... and then i was able to spot start and sure there was SOME luck involved... i mean i worked ricky romero to like ~11-12 wins and a 3.28/1.23, when his overall stats are like 14 wins and 3.70/1.29 or something... i got hit with the two bad hanson starts, but like, by the time latos and garcia came up and added to what i already had, it was only a matter of offense.... realistically, by august the league was done... and all these people who were clowning me on draft day for reaching early for closers/hanson/etc were congratulating me for kicking their posteriors all over the league.
so that's my story and i'm sticking to it... if you can go out of your way to get a stranglehold on starting pitching, all it takes is dedication and the willignness to constantly roll the dice til you get something that works and even in a fast winners league just be a lil bit faster and when the mike stantons and buster poseys and mat latoses are there for the taking, go take them and blam.
since 90+% of people are going offensive crazy in the draft, if you know your pitching, you can carve out a dominant staff and get yourself in a position where you can boast "IF I GET SOME OFFENSE YOU'RE ALL F'D" and then, get some offense and the F'ing ensues =D