Cafe consensus Top 50 for 2011?

[WaCougMBS]

Is someone spearheading this project for this season? If not, I might be able to co-coordinate with someone if we could get 5-10 rankers and crank something out in the next couple of weeks. If there's one in the works somewhere and I missed it somehow, I'd love to participate (or at least utilize if I'm too late for that) so let me know if you know anything

[Havok1517]

Mine...

1 A. Chapman (Cin - P) – Hitting 105mph from the left side, the sky is the limit if healthy
2 D. Brown (Phi - OF) – Daryl Strawberry comparisons aren’t so farfetched now
3 B. Harper (Was - OF) – He has the skills to live up to the hype, we’ll see on ATL 40-man
4 M. Machado (Bal - SS) – Best SS prospect in the game, liking the Larkin comp more than ARod
5 J. Hellickson (TB - SP) – Showed great poise in the majors last year
6 W. Myers (KC - C) – His hitting potential at C could be elite production
7 D. Ackley (Sea - 2B) – Personally think he has more ability to stay at 2B than Lawrie & Kipnis
8 J. Montero (NYY - C) – The bat is legit and the glove at backstop might be okay for awhile
9 E. Hosmer (KC - 1B) – As he’s matured and added muscle to his frame, his bat has become special
10 Sh. Miller (Stl - SP) – After Chapman and Hellickson, Miller has the best prospect arm in baseball
11 M. Trout (LAA - OF) – Need to see what he’ll do in more advanced levels, Grady Sizemore ceiling
12 M. Moustakas (KC - 3B) – Led the minors in HR last year and could be the starting KC 3B in ‘11
13 G. Green (Oak - SS) – Hitting production is there and he’ll improve his defense enough for SS
14 D. Jennings (TB - OF) – Crawford leaving clears him a spot but his power projections have decreased
15 B. Lawrie (Tor - 2B) – Some say Jeff Kent with speed, maybe Uggla with some SBs is more like it
16 J. Taillon (Pit - SP) – Best HS arm in the last draft, some say best HS arm in last decade, playing wait game
17 M. Sano (Min - 3B) – MCab comparisons have me intrigued and he does ooze talent
18 J. Turner (Det - SP) – Very overlooked and as he matures look for all of his offerings to improve
19 A. Hicks (Min - OF) – Maybe the best pure athlete in the minors, ranked for potential
20 C. Sale (ChW - P) – Steal in the draft by the White Sox, proved he can pitch in the MLB, can he start though?
21 J. Teharen (Atl - SP) – Weighs 150lbs and there are questions on how he’ll do when he fills out
22 M. Pineda (Sea - SP) – Really like him and think he’ll be a great #2 behind King Felix in time
23 B. Belt (SF - 1B) – Came out of nowhere to become the future 1B in SF
24 B. Jackson (ChC - OF) – Reminds me of a slightly less powerful/less fast Drew Stubbs
25 M. Perez (Tex - SP) – Throws bullets and could be the biggest beneficiary of Lee leaving
26 F. Freeman (Atl - 1B) – Not a superstar but he’ll be a productive hitter for the future
27 J. Kipkis (Cle - 2B) – Loved to move to 2B and he’ll be a great 2B keeper
28 Si. Castro (SD - SP) – Plus stuff and legit multiple offerings in SD equals production
29 W. Flores (NYM - SS) – Like Sano, very young but extremely talented
30 K. Drabek (Tor - SP) – Looked good late in the season and will go with the pedigree
31 D. Mesoraco (Cin - C) – Next to Belt, he raised his stock more than anyone else
32 J. Parker (Ari - SP) – Health concerns aside, he has ace potential
33 D. Gordon (LAD - SS) – Love the speed and contact ability, will replace Furcal in LA
34 Z. Wheeler (SF - SP) – Very overlooked in the 2009 draft, but should add to the SF starting arsenal
35 R. Delgado (Atl - SP) – Some actually think he’ll be better than Teharen, Braves 40-man roster
36 T. Matzek (Col - SP) – Came on late last season but one of the more power lefty prospects
37 N. Franklin (Sea - SS) – I’m not sure he’s a 20/20 player in the upper levels but he might be
38 Y. Alonso (Cin - 1B) – The bat is there and the power should come back as his wrist heals
39 K. Vitek (Bos - 3B) – Like his speed, size, glove and power potential over the other ’10 3B draft picks
40 M. Moore (TB - SP) – Don’t think his effective wildness plays well in the majors
41 J. Profar (Tex - SS) – Reminds of Starlin Castro and eventually Edgar Renteria
42 D. Betances (NYY - SP) – He’s a huge figure on the mound and now healthy
43 Z. Cox (Stl - 3B) – Might lack the physical projection for 3B, rumors about moving to 2B too
44 D. Tate (SD - OF) – Yet to play above Rookie ball but the talent and projection is still there
45 Z. Bitton (Bal - SP) – Better in reality than fantasy
46 C. Blackmon (Col - OF) – Just another weapon for the Rockies outfield
47 M. Minor (Atl - SP) – Gained mph and was a good during stretch in majors
48 M. Dominguez (Fla - 3B) – Glove is remarkable, might be the starting FLA 3B in ‘11
49 K. Gibson (Min - SP) – Like Britton, could be better in reality than fantasy
50 L. Chisenhall (Cle - 3B) – Not bad at anything but not great at anything, Bill Mueller maybe?

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[Steve-o]

My draft will probably be down in the next 7-14 days, so I don't want to post it quite yet. However, feel free to PM if you are making a group one.

[MasterX1918]

I did this a couple months ago but any recent changes wouldn't be too drastic


1-Mike Trout (OF)- LAA
2-Jeremy Hellickson (P)- TB
3-Dominic Brown (OF)- PHI
4-Aroldis Chapman (P)- CIN
5-Bryce Harper (OF) - WAS
6-Julio Tehearan (P)- ATL
7-Jesus Montero (C/DH) - NYY
8-Michael Pineda (P)-SEA
9-Eric Hosmer (1B) – KC
10-Desmond Jennings (OF)- TB
11-Mike Moustakas (3B)- KC
12-Dustin Ackley (2B) - SEA
13-Wil Myers (OF)- KC
14-Matt Moore (P)- TB
15-Kyle Drabek (P)- TOR
16-Shelby Miller (P)- STL
17-Brandon Belt (1B/OF)- SF
18-Jameson Tallion (P)-PIT
19-Freddie Freeman (1B)- ATL
20-Martin Perez (P)- TEX
21-Brett Lawrie (2B)- MIL
22-Manny Machado (SS)- BAL
23-Jacob Turner (P)- DET
24-Kyle Gibson (P)- MIN
25-Jurickson Profar (SS)-TEX
26-Mike Montgomery (P)-KC
27-Mike Minor (P)- ATL
28-Lonnie Chisenhall (3B)- CLE
29-Chris Carter (1B/OF)- OAK
30-Zach Britton (P)- BAL
31-Jarrod Parker (P)- ARI
32-Brett Jackson (OF)-CHC
33-Tyler Matzek (P)- COL
34-Simon Castro (P)- SD
35-Dee Gordon (SS)- LAD
36-Chris Sale (P)- CWS
37-Nick Franklin (SS)- SEA
38-John Lamb (P)- KC
39-Jenrry Mejia (NYM)
40-Aaron Hicks (OF)- MIN
41-Grant Green (SS)- OAK
42-Miguel Sano (3B)- MIN
43-Jordan Lyles (P)- HOU
44-Randall Delgado (P)- ATL
45-Derek Norris (C)- WAS
46-Casey Kelly (P)-SD
47-Jon Singleton (1B)-PHI
48-Manny Banuelos (P)- NYY
49-Devin Mesoraco (C)-CIN
50-Jason Kipnis (2B)-CLE

[Steve-o]

So I averaged my list with the two lists that were posted here and came up with the following. Any ties in the average were broken by lowest standard deviation. Anybody who wants to PM me their list I will add it as well.

1) Brown, Dominic OF Philadelphia Phillies
2) Harper, Bryce OF Washington Nationals
3) Chapman, Aroldis LHP Cincinati Reds
4) Trout, Michael OF Los Angeles Angels
5) Hellickson, Jeremy RHP Tampa Bay Rays
6) Montero, Jesus C New York Yankees
7) Hosmer, Eric 1B Kansas City Royals
8) Myers, Wil OF Kansas City Royals
9) Ackley, Dustin OF Seattle Mariners
10) Teheran, Julio RHP Atlanta Braves
11) Moustakas, Mike 3B Kansas City Royals
12) Jennings, Desmond OF Tampa Bay Rays
13) Miller, Shelby RHP St. Louis Cardinals
14) Machado, Manny SS Baltimore Orioles
15) Taillon, James RHP Pittsburgh Pirates
16) Pineda, Michael RHP Seattle Mariners
17) Belt, Brandon 1B San Francisco Giants
18) Turner, Jacob RHP Detriot Tigers
19) Freeman, Freddie 1B Atlanta Braves
20) Drabek, Kyle RHP Toronto Blue Jays
21) Perez, Martin LHP Texas Rangers
22) Moore, Matthew LHP Tampa Bay Rays
23) Lawrie, Brett 2B Toronto Blue Jays
24) Sale, Chris LHP Chicago White Sox
25) Britton, Zach LHP Baltimore Orioles
26) Parker, Jarrod RHP Arizona Diamondbacks
27) Hicks, Aaron OF Minnesota Twins
28) Montgomery, Michael LHP Kansas City Royals
29) Matzek, Tyler LHP Colorado Rockies
30) Minor, Michael LHP Atlanta Braves
31) Jackson, Brett OF Chicago Cubs
32) Chisenhall, Lonnie 3B Cleveland Indians
33) Green, Grant SS Oakland
34) Sano, Miguel 3B Minnesota Twins
35) Kipnis, Jason 2B Cleveland Indians
36) Lamb, John LHP Kansas City Royals
37) Castro, Simon LHP San Diego Padres
38) Gibson, Kyle RHP Minnesota Twins
39) Franklin, Nicholas (Nick) SS Seattle Mariners
40) Delgado, Randall RHP Atlanta Braves
41) Profar, J SS Texas Rangers
42) Gordon, D SS Los Angeles Dodgers
43) Mesoraco, Devin C Cincinati Reds
44) Singleton, Jonathan OF Philadelphia Phillies
45) Banuelos, Manuel LHP New York Yankees
46) Kelly, Casey RHP San Diego Padres
47) Wheeler, Zach RHP San Francisco Giants
48) Carter, Chris 1B Oakland
49) Flores, Wilmer 3B New york Mets
50) Lyles, Jordan RHP Houston Astros

[J35J]

Probably should emphasis how each list is done. Is it based on how good of a MLB player they are likely to be...defense included....is it how safe the player will be(someone like Ackley is very safe to become a solid major leaguer but doesn't, IMHO, have huge upside)....or are you ranking on mostly upside and not worrying about how far away the player is from the majors....is it a ranking just strickly for fantasy baseball in mind, etc.

I know people rank their minor leaguers with all different things in mind and it would be nice to see what people are thinking when they put their lists together. Not saying any one way is right or wrong, just want to get an idea of the mindset was when the list was put together.

[Steve-o]

Personally, my list is strictly for fantasy. I ding guys pretty heavily for having good defense, especially if that is their best tool. I generally look more to upside than floor, but I certainly factor risk into it as well, especially with pitchers.

Coincidentally, Ackley is 9th on my overall list. Some other prospects that might give you an idea of my thinking: Drabek 20, Singleton 31, Iglesias 51, and Flores 58.

[BUCCOFAN]

I scored Hosmer $8 and Myers $4, in our blind auction yesterday......(we are allowed minor league slots) How did I do?

Question#1 Does Myers drop in these rankings now that the Royals moved him to the OF?
Question #2, Does Hosmer see the majors this season?

Thanks

[Steve-o]

I scored Hosmer $8 and Myers $4, in our blind auction yesterday......(we are allowed minor league slots) How did I do?

Question#1 Does Myers drop in these rankings now that the Royals moved him to the OF?
Question #2, Does Hosmer see the majors this season?

Thanks

1.) I already had Myers as a OF when I did my rankings, so it shouldn't change anything. If anything it helps his fantasy value by getting him to the majors quicker and assuring him more regular playing time when he does get here.

2.) I think he sniffs the majors, but probably doesn't make an impact this year.