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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby Elsy » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:46 pm

BATTERS:
3b alex rodriguez ;-D
cf carlos beltran
1b adrian gonzalez ;-D as long as you want
c geo soto
c carlos santana ;-D as long as you want
ss jose reyes ;-D
2b chase utley ;-D as long as you want
rf corey hart
cf austin jackson
lf carlso lee
cf colby rasmus

PITCHERS:
brett anderson ;-D as long as you want
john axford ;-D
daniel bard
josh beckett ;-D
trevor cahil
matt cain ;-D as long as you want
cc sabathia ;-D as long as you want - even tho I don't see him doing too much 2+ yrs from now
juan guitierez
hong chih kuo
matt capps
fernando rodney
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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby sox 06 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:35 pm

I like the "as long as you want" players to be Adrian Gonzalez, Chase Utley and Carlos Santana. Gonzo and Utley are proven producers that should continue to perform at a high level for years to come. Santana has all kinds of upside and he played fairly well in his limited time last season.

Arod and Reyes for players for next year. Both are risks in my opinion (Reyes more so than Arod) but they both have the potential to be impact players.

For the three pitchers, I like CC Sabathia, Josh Beckett and Matt Cain for the same reasons are the three batters. For the two pitchers for next season, I like Bard and Axford.

Thanks for your help with mine.
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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby Darth Danielus » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:03 pm

Thanks a ton for all the help.

Stills such a tough call between long-term keeping arod or santana. I don't like to be the guy who over-values young prospect type guys, no matter how highly regarded they are, at the expense of proven studs like arod. Only his health and age make this even debatable for me --- I'm in contention every year in my league (a keeper started almost a 10 years ago) and if arod remains an impact bat at 3B for just 2 more seasons, santana would need to be an elite catcher over that time to make it worth me keeping him. And then maybe reyes makes a case for the spot if I do decide this is my last year with arod?

For pitchers -- I generally agree not to pay for saves, but I feel the same way about starters -- there are always surplus guys late in the draft and on the wire, so I could go either way there and not be too worried about it. But the consensus is beckett over cahill? I'd like to agree on that one too with the price I paid for beckett....hope he doesn't burn me, but on the pitching side, the decisions aren't so tough, and the consequences aren't so high.
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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby LARS929 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:16 pm

Darth Danielus wrote:Hey guys...

I'm in a 10 team, yahoo roto 6 x 6 keeper league (ops. and quality starts the extra cats.) EAch team gets to keep 3 batters for as long as we want, and 2 JUST for next year, 3 pitchers for as long as we want, and 2 just for next year. Here are my possible choices...

BATTERS:
3b alex rodriguez
cf carlos beltran
1b adrian gonzalez ;-D
c geo soto
c carlos santana
ss jose reyes
2b chase utley ;-D
rf corey hart
cf austin jackson
lf carlso lee
cf colby rasmus ;-D

PITCHERS:
brett anderson ;-D
john axford
daniel bard
josh beckett
trevor cahil
matt cain ;-D
cc sabathia ;-D
juan guitierez
hong chih kuo
matt capps
fernando rodney

Our league tends to hoard saves for what its worth.....

For batters, I'm leaning toward arod, utley, and agonz for as long as I want, and reyes and one of the catchers for just this year. For pitchers -- cain, sabathia and anderson, and then maybe axford and cahil.

Any ideas/help is appreciated...I'll help in return if I can.


Keep those guys forever and then for this year, Reyes, a-Rod, Axford and Capps
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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby Darth Danielus » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:10 pm

Any last minute advice....gotta send the keepers in soon.

It really boils down to this....would you rather have carlos santana for just this year and arod for the next 2, or the other way around...santana for 2 years, and arod just this year. Unless santana is a surefire superstar at mauer's level, and will be really productive for the next 2 seasons, I feel like arod makes me more competitive the next 2 seasons.

However -- I have all the respect in the world for the posters here....if santana is the way to go, please keep convincing me!


Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby ytorf » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:54 pm

Darth Danielus wrote:Awould you rather have carlos santana for just this year and arod for the next 2, or the other way around...


I'd rather have Santana for the two years. He's better trade bait that way, too, if you have doubts about him. A-rod is getting up there and could fall off fast. (Though I'm a Sox fan and that could be some wishful thinking...) I wouldn't want to count on a 37-year-old down the stretch in a couple years.

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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby raiders_umpire » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:48 pm

Darth Danielus wrote:Any last minute advice....gotta send the keepers in soon.

It really boils down to this....would you rather have carlos santana for just this year and arod for the next 2, or the other way around...santana for 2 years, and arod just this year. Unless santana is a surefire superstar at mauer's level, and will be really productive for the next 2 seasons, I feel like arod makes me more competitive the next 2 seasons.

However -- I have all the respect in the world for the posters here....if santana is the way to go, please keep convincing me!


Thanks for all the help.



I would rather have Arod for 2 years then Santana for 2 years.
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Re: Keeper Opinions - WHIR

Postby dday0606 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:40 pm

I agree with the crowd:
keep forever: gonzo, Santana, Utley, Cain, anderson, Sabathia
keep one year: Reyes, Arod, Beckett, Cahill

I am in the camp that thinks Arod is in his age decline phase and no matter how good he was, he won't be worth that much by next year. I expect Arod & Santana to be about the same value next year. I also think Beckett is better than Axford and should bounce back nicely this season. However, I would hedge my bets and only keep him for one year, he seems to alternate up/down years.

BTW, thanks with mine
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