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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby OBPlover » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:42 am

It will be interesting to see if Billy Hamilton, screws up your tactic (Assuming you don't also own him).

If the kid can run like they say at the ML level, even if he only pinch runs, he could get an avg of 1 sb every day. Which means you may lose that category to a power heavy team.
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby garf112 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:11 pm

This is why you should add more hitters to each team. CI and MI spots, 5 OFers. Would make it harder for you to find decent bats off waivers.
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby gravenewworld » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:54 pm

Just an update: made it to the championship rd!


3 years straight and running after using this strategy. Also finished out the year with 9 straight weeks of wins.
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby OBPlover » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:59 am

I don't understand. Is this one of those "1-point H2H leagues"?
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby Skin Blues » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:15 am

gravenewworld wrote:OFs every single year are absolutely overvalued, I never understand why anyone drafts an OF before rd10.

Maybe because we don't all play H2H leagues where gimmicky approaches like this are viable??
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby wrveres » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:59 pm

gravenewworld wrote:Just an update: made it to the championship rd!
3 years straight and running after using this strategy. Also finished out the year with 9 straight weeks of wins.
congrats
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby TheTrith » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:14 am

gravenewworld wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:I'm interested in seeng a) your post-draft roster and b) your current roster



Sure, NP:

Draft:
http://imgur.com/p0wfORZ
(had a lot of stinkers, but easily was fixable, that's the beauty of not valuing expensive bats). Notice my complete commitment to the sweeney plan.

uhh I must be missing something but there is no way you drafted that team this year, and if you did youd be closer to last place than 1st...
Weaver, Halladay, Timmy, in rounds 2-4 and then Stras didnt go until the 13th?

wat
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:15 am

wrveres wrote:
gravenewworld wrote:Just an update: made it to the championship rd!
3 years straight and running after using this strategy. Also finished out the year with 9 straight weeks of wins.
congrats

;-D ;-D

Seems pretty unorthadox but if it works it works. I see how you make the playoffs with that strategy, win SB and Saves for sure and take home W, K, ERA and WHIP most of the time. I am surprised you keep winning your league with it.
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby Hendu555 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:32 pm

gravenewworld wrote:Just an update: made it to the championship rd!


3 years straight and running after using this strategy. Also finished out the year with 9 straight weeks of wins.



gravenewworld: did you try this again in 2014?
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Re: Anyone ever employ a steals focused strategy?

Postby Garry26 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:18 am

Yes the Sweeney Plan can work (even in roto). However, there are some issues:

The idea here is to walk away with all 5 pitching stats, and lock steals, runs and batting average. The thinking is that you grab the best pitchers unchallenged while everyone is after the stud hitters. Then grab the less coveted base stealers that hit for average.

The problems are that these last few years there have been fewer base stealers that hit for high enough average to ensure you win both categories. This means that there are a few must have players, which defeats the purpose because part of the idea is that "anyone will do as long as I have enough SB guys." Also, many owners will target power-scarce positions (2B, SS) for their SB production, which may cut into your must haves. In 2014, two top SB/Avg 2Bs went in the middle rounds, which defeats the "less coveted" idea behind Sweeney.

The PEDs crackdown has caused pitchers to dominate these last few years. What this means for Sweeney is that there's less room between the elite pitchers and the rest. In other words, it's harder to "corner the market" on top SPs and guarantee winning all SP categories. Another owner that didn't focus on SPs, but still has a top staff, can still challenge.

Lastly, Saves have been fickle and annoying. Especially in 2014 (remember how the year started?). If one or two of your closers loses their job and owners get the jump on you and pick the FA clean, there goes The Sweeney Plan.

In short, it relies on certain "certainties" which aren't all that certain anymore: That...
-you assemble a powerhouse SP staff unmolested that can't possibly be challenged.
-while ppl grabbed power hitting studs, you grabbed a bunch of SB, high BA run scorers.
-your chosen closers do well, don't lose their jobs, and if someone does, you can grab a good replacement before you get beaten to the punch.
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