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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby wrveres » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:01 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
wrveres wrote:i have never seen the dept of labor go around slashing tires, and beating people up who disagree with them. i have yet to see the dept of labor show up at a private residence and harass women and children because their father happens to work for a bank.

But they do send their Congressional representatives to task whenever they want to extend unemployment benefits.

Strong-arming has more than one form.


no reason to 'write your congressman' when you can just buy em off ;-)
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby wrveres » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:08 pm

this is why publics unions are bad. no negotiation , just favors.

Proof the Madison, WI. Mayor colluding with unions ..

They were trying to buy some time so they could ratify new contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts. Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions. Period." Kliesmet says collective bargaining require that there be two sides. It is impossible to have collective bargaining with only one side."

Mayor Ciesliewicz says, "We ARE on the same side." The mayor admits they rushed contracts, but says the city negotiated in good faith. "That's the way collective bargaining works. It ought to be a negotiation, but at the end of the day we want to have good working relationships between labor and management here in Madison." According to the e-mails, Secretary of State Doug La Follette declined to delay publication of the law, but it all became a moot point when Senator Democrats fled the state to block the bill.

Chris Kleismet from CRG said it appears the 14 Senators orchestrated their trip to Illinois to buy time for unions all over the state to work out new deals.
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:27 am

Had a faculty meeting with the superintendent on Tuesday about the layoffs that will be happening come June. Budget will be made public sometime late April, voted on May 15th. I'm a chopping block candidate. Had a meeting with my building union rep to discuss possibilities, etc. yesterday. As things go I'll give you a first hand account of what the union does and how it operates. As it was explained to me yesterday, the only thing they're doing right now is proactively working with the district board to try and allow retirement candidates to negotiate the terms of retirement early, before the budget is built, so they can budget the savings made from retirees (typically retirees won't announce retirement until the end of the school year, so they still have leverage) in order to try and save jobs. They are also making sure that the terms of my contract are followed if I am excessed, or worst case, laid off, as far as where I fall on the ladder compared to others who are in the same boat.

Keep in mind this is all happening in one of the wealthiest and most well run districts in the entire United States, and by no fault of their own. Our budget has been meticulously incredible for the last fifteen years, but the state is mandating a cut of between $2.5 - 4.5 million in order to receive state aide. God help the people who work in the poor or poorly run areas.
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby urbanbreez » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:33 pm

God help the people who work in the poor or poorly run areas.


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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:16 pm

A unionized public employee, a member of the Tea Party, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table there is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies looks at the Tea Partier and says,
"Look out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."

So, The Tea Partier, quickly, snatches the cookie while calling the union guy a socialist. The Tea Partier, of course, gives half the cookie back to the CEO knowing that it, along with the other 11, will "trickle" down on him...
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby lastingsgriller » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:38 pm

yeah, but what kind of cookies were they?
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby wrveres » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:56 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
A unionized public employee, a member of the Tea Party, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table there is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies looks at the Tea Partier and says,
"Look out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."

So, The Tea Partier, quickly, snatches the cookie while calling the union guy a socialist. The Tea Partier, of course, gives half the cookie back to the CEO knowing that it, along with the other 11, will "trickle" down on him...
since when do unionized public employees work for a ceo? they work for the public. hello. McFly.
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby wrveres » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:06 pm

i'll also add, that when there is some sort of "Public CEO", ie a mayor or governor, his pay is set in stone. The minute he asks for more money, its front page news. where as when your unionized public employee gets his annual raise for calling in sick 30 times during the year, it won't even get a blurb in the union newsletter.

and lastly. who pays both this Unionized employee, and this hypothetical CEO?

Yep, you guessed it ..the ****ing Tea party guy bringing home 30 grand a year.
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby wrveres » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:32 pm

lastly, lastly ..
The Tea Partier, of course, gives half the cookie back to the CEO knowing that it, along with the other 11, will "trickle" down on him...

its quite obvious you haven't been paying attention. the reason these communities are broke, is because all of the public money is being "trickled down" to the union guy. in many cases this is almost 50% of the budget, or more.

its clear i reject your argument/joke, what ever you wanted to call it.
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Re: GM hourly workers get $4,000 bonuses

Postby wrveres » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:37 pm

bigh0rt wrote:Had a faculty meeting with the superintendent on Tuesday about the layoffs that will be happening come June. Budget will be made public sometime late April, voted on May 15th. I'm a chopping block candidate. Had a meeting with my building union rep to discuss possibilities, etc. yesterday. As things go I'll give you a first hand account of what the union does and how it operates. As it was explained to me yesterday, the only thing they're doing right now is proactively working with the district board to try and allow retirement candidates to negotiate the terms of retirement early, before the budget is built, so they can budget the savings made from retirees (typically retirees won't announce retirement until the end of the school year, so they still have leverage) in order to try and save jobs. They are also making sure that the terms of my contract are followed if I am excessed, or worst case, laid off, as far as where I fall on the ladder compared to others who are in the same boat.

Keep in mind this is all happening in one of the wealthiest and most well run districts in the entire United States, and by no fault of their own. Our budget has been meticulously incredible for the last fifteen years, but the state is mandating a cut of between $2.5 - 4.5 million in order to receive state aide. God help the people who work in the poor or poorly run areas.


H0rt, the reason you are being laid off, is because of that Union. Instead of figuring out who the bad/under performing teachers are, they just cut the new guy. Its wrong a million times to Sunday, and no business in their right mind would operate like that. Well at least no successful one. But then again, unions have shown over time that they are only successful at helping the guys who work at the AFL-CIO line their pockets with your money. Ask almost any worker in Detroit. Ask pretty much any ex textile employee.
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