In fact, I'd argue the unions are even more dangerous because nobody will dare attack the poor union because they "represent the common man" when in fact they're as money hungry as those who are on top.
Maybe. But, take away unions and you'll be enslaving American workers to corporations if we aren't there already. Love them or hate them, they need to exist.
AquaMan2342 wrote:In fact, I'd argue the unions are even more dangerous because nobody will dare attack the poor union because they "represent the common man" when in fact they're as money hungry as those who are on top.
QFT. The unions are completely at fault. Unions had their time and place, but all they do now is protect the lazy. Very little good comes from unions these days. The US has one of the greatest secondary education systems in the world and a horrible primary education system. It the teachers union that is at fault. There is no accountability for a job not done.
A few years ago, the company I work for gave out a flat rate bonus to hourly workers in the union which turned out to be $50 for every hour worked. It was tied to the value of nickel which hit a huge spike (I work for a very large mining company). Not bad for those making like $10/hr. And now, those ungrateful SOBs are striking left and right, literally all over the world. And they essentially control management in all aspects. Crazy. But I guess as long as everybody is making money hand over fist there's not a big issue.
urbanbreez wrote:this is how you turn around a company and stimulate the economy. great move on behalf of GM.
glad your happy. you are paying for it.
GMs media proclamation that they paid back the government was so fraudulent, there has been Federal Trade Commission complaints filed against them. Almost a year after the “paid in full with interest” ad ran, GMs had only paid back $361 million of the 49.9 billion they were loaned. And just for shits and giggles, GM apparently repaid that, by using other federal funds.
jfg wrote:Maybe. But, take away unions and you'll be enslaving American workers to corporations if we aren't there already. Love them or hate them, they need to exist.
They also need to be checked when necessary. We've had tycoons and CEOs making bank since at least the turn of the century but only now are unions pushing the wages of unskilled labor to ridiculous heights.
AquaMan2342 wrote:In fact, I'd argue the unions are even more dangerous because nobody will dare attack the poor union because they "represent the common man" when in fact they're as money hungry as those who are on top.
i think this whole argument already happened.. in 1935. turns out, they are important.
AquaMan2342 wrote:In fact, I'd argue the unions are even more dangerous because nobody will dare attack the poor union because they "represent the common man" when in fact they're as money hungry as those who are on top.
i think this whole argument already happened.. in 1935. turns out, they are important.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I never said they weren't important or that they should be abolished.
AquaMan2342 wrote:In fact, I'd argue the unions are even more dangerous because nobody will dare attack the poor union because they "represent the common man" when in fact they're as money hungry as those who are on top.
i think this whole argument already happened.. in 1935. turns out, they are important.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I never said they weren't important or that they should be abolished.
I'm not saying anything at all.. no intent on an argument, just pointing out that greed is still the same as it was 75 years ago.