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Postby oddmanout7 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:34 pm

12 team roto w/ OBP keeper with 8 keepers + 1 rookie and 2 minor league keepers

Rookie: AChapman
Minors: Jesus Montero, Mike Trout

Pick 8

Wieters
Fielder
Gordon Beckham
Longoria
Adrian Gonzalez
McCutchen
Delmon Young
Mike Stanton
Carlos Quentin
Victorino
Sizemore

Buchholz
Kershaw
Garza
Cain
Strasburg
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby LMack » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:42 pm

oddmanout7 wrote:12 team roto w/ OBP keeper with 8 keepers + 1 rookie and 2 minor league keepers

Rookie: AChapman
Minors: Jesus Montero, Mike Trout

Pick 8

Wieters
Fielder ;-D
Gordon Beckham
Longoria ;-D
Adrian Gonzalez ;-D
McCutchen ;-D
Delmon Young
Mike Stanton ;-D
Carlos Quentin
Victorino ;-D
Sizemore

Buchholz
Kershaw ;-D
Garza
Cain
Strasburg ;-D


Only Strasburg if you can keep players indefinitely. If you have limited years or increasing salaries, you could lose him. You definitely have the core for a championship run, so I would try to load up for a win, this year. If a lot of SP are kept and you don't wanna hold SS, then Bucholz.
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby oddmanout7 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:15 pm

Locks:
Fielder, Adrian, Longoria, Kershaw

Probable:
McCutchen, Stanton

Possible:
Wieters, Cain, Buchholz, Delmon, Victorino, Beckham, Strasburg

I can keep players indefinitely, but with only 8 keepers, Strasburg taking up one of those could be fairly risky.

I was leaning towards Wieters (I believe he will establish himself as a top 5 C), and Cain (still only 26, decent Ks, good ratios)
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:31 pm

Your 6 plus

Wieters, only 24 still
Sizemore

Cain has some shaky FIP and xFIP.
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby oddmanout7 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:57 pm

HOOTIE wrote:Your 6 plus

Wieters, only 24 still
Sizemore

Cain has some shaky FIP and xFIP.


Sizemore is definitely a good risk/reward pick. I think I can get him back in the draft though.

If an OF I would think Victorino.
If a SP I think Cain or Buccholz.
Or a MI, Beckham.

Beckham is intriguing, but I am not sure if he is worthy keeper. I could see 15/15 from him, which is not too shabby from 2B, but may not be keeper worth. Victorino should put up 15/30, but would be my 3rd OF. Cain and Buchholz are both interesting, but pitching is fairly deep, with some solid late options. Sizemore could bounce back in a big way, but I think he will land somewhere less than 20/20.

Any more opinions?
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby dleoboyd » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:53 pm

1. Evan Longoria
2. Adrian Gonzalez
3. Prince Fielder
4. Andrew McCutchen
5. Clayton Kershaw
6. Matt Cain
7. Matt Wieters
8. Stephen Strasburg

I don't think you can let Strasburg go in a keeper league. He was the best pitcher in baseball last year and could be even better with some seasoning. I'm not in love with Cain, but he's a dependable SP who will get you good ratios and strong K totals.
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:46 pm

dleoboyd wrote:1. Evan Longoria
2. Adrian Gonzalez
3. Prince Fielder
4. Andrew McCutchen
5. Clayton Kershaw
6. Matt Cain
7. Matt Wieters
8. Stephen Strasburg

I don't think you can let Strasburg go in a keeper league. He was the best pitcher in baseball last year and could be even better with some seasoning. I'm not in love with Cain, but he's a dependable SP who will get you good ratios and strong K totals.


How come no Stanton? His value is huge in keepers. I can't get him.
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:49 pm

oddmanout7 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Your 6 plus

Wieters, only 24 still
Sizemore

Cain has some shaky FIP and xFIP.


Sizemore is definitely a good risk/reward pick. I think I can get him back in the draft though.

If an OF I would think Victorino.
If a SP I think Cain or Buccholz.
Or a MI, Beckham.

Beckham is intriguing, but I am not sure if he is worthy keeper. I could see 15/15 from him, which is not too shabby from 2B, but may not be keeper worth. Victorino should put up 15/30, but would be my 3rd OF. Cain and Buchholz are both interesting, but pitching is fairly deep, with some solid late options. Sizemore could bounce back in a big way, but I think he will land somewhere less than 20/20.

Any more opinions?


Interesting. If i was drafting, given the choices, i would go Sizemore, Strasburg, Beckham. But i'm big on youth in keepers.
Cain and Buchholz are nice sp, but i expect both to regress some given their other numbers.
If you pass on Sizemore, i would go SS or Beckham.
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:18 pm

Wieters
Fielder
Longoria
Adrian Gonzalez
McCutchen
Mike Stanton
Sizemore
Kershaw
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Re: Which 8 keepers?

Postby oddmanout7 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:33 am

It looks like it comes down to Sizemore or Strasburg.

Both are risky, and Strasburg will do nothing to help me this year (but in the future = money).

Sizemore should approach 20/20, but nothing is guaranteed coming off microfracture surgery.

Any more thoughts or suggestions?

There is also Beckham, but I am not sure what to expect from him. 15/10 with a good average isn't too shabby for a 2B, probably not top 10, but close. And he does have upside.

I am trying to make moves, but people don't want to deal their studs for a few additional keepers, so it looks like I will have to make a decision.
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