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Postby HOOTIE » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:11 am

Well, the madness will be shown today.
Who made writers the moral police?
MLB writers failed imo.

How Alomar, Larkin, Bagwell get left off ballots, escapes me?

Journalism school does not teach bb.

Ken Gurnick and Carrie Muskat are a disgrace!

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Re: HOF

Postby bigken117 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:57 am

Blyleven lost 17 games in his lone 20-win season and lost 10 or more 16 times

I think Morris is a Hall of Famer because he was one of the most dominant pitchers of his era.

Blyleven would have already been elected had he played in a major media market

All Morris did was win -- that's practically a negative statistic nowadays



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Re: HOF

Postby Tavish » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:20 am

My favorite quote is from Marty Noble:
Blyleven lost 17 games in his lone 20-win season and lost 10 or more 16 times. In my mind, he produced two, perhaps three Hall of Fame seasons. Not enough.

Says the guy who voted for Dave Parker who had one, maybe two, HoF caliber seasons.

How Alomar gets so much love by the same people who seem to dismiss Larkin blows my mind.
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Re: HOF

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:14 pm

isn't alomar dying from AIDS? he should get in before he dies.
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Re: HOF

Postby thedude » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:26 pm

HOOTIE wrote:Who made writers the moral police?



The Baseball Hall of Fame Official Criteria:

5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.


http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rul ... tion/bbwaa
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Re: HOF

Postby princethomas » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:47 pm

thedude wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Who made writers the moral police?



The Baseball Hall of Fame Official Criteria:

5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.


http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rul ... tion/bbwaa



Yep. Good ole rule 5 from the HOF. Writers forget about that when they are trying to justify voting for Steroid freaks.

Bert Blylevin is the perfect example of a great Stat Accumulator. I wouldn't vote for him. He's just a solid pitcher who stayed healthy enough to rack up big numbers. He was a very very good pitcher, but thats all.

Alomar was very very good to. I'd probably vote for him. But Im not sure. Hes borderline.

Honestly, I'm not sure Id vote for anyone this year.
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Re: HOF

Postby Tavish » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:52 pm

thedude wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Who made writers the moral police?



The Baseball Hall of Fame Official Criteria:

5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.


http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rul ... tion/bbwaa


From JoePo's blog
Jeff Bagwell — though he never tested positive for steroids, never was implicated in any public way, was not named in the Mitchell Report or by anyone on the record as a suspected user, and is not even on this rather comprehensive list of players linked to steroids or HGH — seems to have become in some voter’s minds a player who used performance enhancing drugs.

This isn't voting on a player's integrity or character. Bagwell will likely be the first innocent bystander caught in the steroid era cross-fire.
Is he innocent? I don't know and don't really care. But I really don't care for any writer who is using steroids as a cop out for not voting for Bagwell when the era he played is the damning evidence. Especially when at the same time they are voting for Alomar.
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Re: HOF

Postby HOOTIE » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:20 pm

thedude wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Who made writers the moral police?



The Baseball Hall of Fame Official Criteria:

5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.


http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rul ... tion/bbwaa


I know about the rule.

Too bad they have ignored that rule till the last few years. It's a joke.
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Re: HOF

Postby Tavish » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:03 pm

Congrats to Alomar and Blyleven for great careers and their elections.
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Re: HOF

Postby thedude » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:09 pm

Two worthy players are in. ;-D
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