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How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby ramble2 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:31 am

As much as I like Yahoo, they don't stay open for fantasy baseball all year long. I've proposed some changes to my league format, but am not sure Yahoo will support them.

In particular, I'd like to replace the 'Saves' category with 'Saves + Holds'.* Anyone know whether Yahoo allows that as a category in roto? How flexible is Yahoo with creating categories? Are you locked in to their options, or can you create your own metrics? For example, if I wanted to create a category that ranked teams based on '2*Saves + Holds' could I do that?

*I want to ditch 'Saves' as a stand-alone category because I'm sick of how it distorts the value of pitchers. Half the fights in my league concern whether or not some crappy closer is being over-valued in a trade (answer: typically no, because it's an easy way to gain points, even if the pitcher is horrendous). Combining saves and holds in a single category dilutes the value of the save and increases the value of good MRs, helping resolve some of the artificial scarcity that inflates the value of crappy closers. If you want to discuss the value of 'Saves' as a category great, but please do it in another thread.
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby boredguy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:44 am

You can't create your own categories, you have to use what Yahoo has available. Here's the options for last season: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/sports ... EP6ZLj03hG
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby ramble2 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:59 am

boredguy wrote:You can't create your own categories, you have to use what Yahoo has available. Here's the options for last season: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/sports ... EP6ZLj03hG

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, 'Saves + Holds' isn't a category, giving ammunition to the manager who wants to switch to CBSportsline. I'd much prefer to stay with Yahoo.

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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby Fantasy Sports Genie » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:28 pm

I'm here, and I hear the interest in this particular category and more generally the ability to create categories. But regrettably I can assure you that won't happen this season.
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby oscarsf » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:25 pm

We use Holds and Saves in a 6x6 H2H 16-team Yahoo league and everyone likes using both categories. We like having both categories because it measures your set-up men and your relievers. It works well for us.
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby Skin Blues » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:27 pm

Why do you feel the need to use either saves or holds since you don't seem to like the idea behind them? I guess if the league s bent on keeping saves then you don't have much of a choice.
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby ramble2 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:56 pm

Skin Blues wrote:Why do you feel the need to use either saves or holds since you don't seem to like the idea behind them? I guess if the league s bent on keeping saves then you don't have much of a choice.

I actually like the idea of a single category combining the two. I think that represents reliever value, at least to some interesting extent. Having a single save category I'm less happy with. I think it artificially creates too much of a scarce commodity which increases the value of some relief pitchers while decreasing the value of others. Combining the categories makes some of the middle relievers that get holds worth more than crappy relievers--and I think that better reflects the real value of these guys.

At least in a 5x5 league. I'm sure there are lots of systems that can be used that result in different ways of valuing players.
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby LMack » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:20 pm

Is CBS Sportsline the only site with Saves+Holds? Who else has it?
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Re: How flexible are Yahoo scoring categories?

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:42 pm

at first, i didn't like how saves+hold sounded but i actually think it's a good idea now.
i would be open to using that category over the traditional saves.
it takes some chaos out of trying to run after every possible reliever chasing saves.
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