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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby thedude » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:00 pm

Deserving or not. He will not make it this year.
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby Tavish » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:08 pm

Maybe I'm missing something. What makes Bagwell the prototypical roider other than he says he didn't do them?
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby ensanimal » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:12 pm

Tavish wrote:Maybe I'm missing something. What makes Bagwell the prototypical roider other than he says he didn't do them?


Because anyone that hit a home run during those years was obviously on roids. I thought we've been through all of this before? :-?
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby Kim Bhasin » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:35 pm

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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:23 pm

Skin Blues wrote:Bagwell wasn't good enough to be excluded from the HOF.

Unfortunately, this is probably true. And I don't mean unfortunately in terms of Bagwell getting in, he certainly deserves it. It's ridiculous that guys who used steroids (allegedly) to become the very best of the best (Bonds and Clemens, in particular) and guys who used steroids to become great and really grew bigger than the game (McGwire, Sosa, etc) will probably be kept out, while guys who used steriods to become better than just about everyone else, but not transcendent, will get a pass. Let them all in and tell the whole story.
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby Verminator » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:07 am

BitterDodgerFan wrote:they really need to make a roiders wing in the HoF for all these guys from the steroids era


Good idea... because the roiders' stats are posted in the HOF today with the cop-out disclaimer of "we choose to post the info and you can make your own decision". The entry of the wing would state something similar and it will probably be the least popular wing in the Hall.
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby Verminator » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:14 am

Tavish wrote:Maybe I'm missing something. What makes Bagwell the prototypical roider other than he says he didn't do them?


a) The eye test
b) Punching Judy minor league numbers
c) Sudden career crash
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby HOOTIE » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:26 am

BitterDodgerFan wrote:they really need to make a roiders wing in the HoF for all these guys from the steroids era


Then we need a wing for the greenie era 1960 on.
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby PDRAstrosFan » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:21 am

Verminator wrote:
Tavish wrote:Maybe I'm missing something. What makes Bagwell the prototypical roider other than he says he didn't do them?


a) The eye test
b) Punching Judy minor league numbers
c) Sudden career crash



Sudden Career Crash? Try degenerative arthritis of the shoulder. I seriously doubt he was a user. ESPN made great points in stating that he was never listed in the Mitchell Report or by anyone else. You could have user friends and not be a user.
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Re: Bagwell and the HOF?

Postby wrveres » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:23 am

HOOTIE wrote:
BitterDodgerFan wrote:they really need to make a roiders wing in the HoF for all these guys from the steroids era


Then we need a wing for the greenie era 1960 on.


and a segregated era.
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