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"Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby Y`s Guy » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:39 pm

A classic Bugs Bunny line. Remember?

But today as we know WAR means one thing. If you go by opinions in the Cafe and elsewhere on the internets WAR is the premier saberstat for determining fantasy value. As a long time fantasy manager since the days of drafting a rookie named Frank Thomas I am now looking at expanding my knowledge of saberstats. I am old school. I draft with gut feelings and my love for certain players. Back in the day I was a Michael Tucker apologist. A Doug Henry sycophant. A Joey Belle worshipper (Only I was able to call him Joey). Today, its Carl Crawford who I need every year. Its Justin Verlander who I always target as an ace and its Drew Storen who makes me drool for some reason

I am hoping to see why WAR is so valuable and hoping a discussion breaks out. Wins Above Replacement? Why?!?!?
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby neoforce » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:11 pm

Y`s Guy wrote:If you go by opinions in the Cafe and elsewhere on the internets WAR is the premier saberstat for determining fantasy value.


I never think of WAR as a FANTASY stat. I think of it as a real world stat. Especially since WAR includes defensive metrics that we in fantasy don't care about. Here is a good article about WAR, which also references back to a bunch of work that is on fangraphs. http://saberlibrary.com/misc/war/

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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby thedude » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:38 am

WAR is supposed to take a look at the full value of a player, so it includes defense. That is why it won't be of much use for fantasy sports.
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:40 pm

Have my girlfriend call me, I haven't heard from her in a couple days.
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Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:21 pm

It's an excellent tool to use when bitching about playing time or awards. ;-D
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby Y`s Guy » Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:51 am

Thanks for the feedback. I will look to other stats. I guess its time to focus on BABIP for both pitchers and batters.
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby thejusman1 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:33 pm

WAR, what is it good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby Fenway Punk » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:49 am

neoforce wrote:
Y`s Guy wrote:If you go by opinions in the Cafe and elsewhere on the internets WAR is the premier saberstat for determining fantasy value.


I never think of WAR as a FANTASY stat. I think of it as a real world stat. Especially since WAR includes defensive metrics that we in fantasy don't care about. Here is a good article about WAR, which also references back to a bunch of work that is on fangraphs. http://saberlibrary.com/misc/war/

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This. By the way it's not a Bugs line, it's Daffy Duck.
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby neoforce » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:15 pm

Fenway Punk wrote:
neoforce wrote:
<Oh, and I love Bugs and that line!!!>

By the way it's not a Bugs line, it's Daffy Duck.


Bugs said it too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9jHa-y24hM

No clue who said it first. I'm not a historian of classic comics.
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Re: "Of course you know, this means WAR"

Postby Y`s Guy » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:47 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:Have my girlfriend call me, I haven't heard from her in a couple days.


Well, has she called?
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