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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/16 update

Postby thedude » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:22 pm

RedSoxNation04 wrote:Not happy about this at all...Jenks is a disaster.


He was just unlucky last year. He had a great k/9 and good bb/9 with a 2.59 Fip and a 2.62 xFIP
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/16 update

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:34 pm

thedude wrote:
RedSoxNation04 wrote:Not happy about this at all...Jenks is a disaster.


He was just unlucky last year. He had a great k/9 and good bb/9 with a 2.59 Fip and a 2.62 xFIP

I still don't like it...he's overweight and, though it's a small sample size, has gotten lit up in Fenway
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/17 update

Postby manalishi » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:56 am

12/17 update with info on Jenks, Papelbon, Aardsma, Wood, Ogando.
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/24 update

Postby manalishi » Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:17 am

12/24 update with Lindstrom info.
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/24 update

Postby mblax10 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:48 am

If TB doesn't sign anybody, I think Jake McGee gets first shot with some possibility of giving Niemann a look.
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/24 update

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:35 pm

mblax10 wrote:If TB doesn't sign anybody, I think Jake McGee gets first shot with some possibility of giving Niemann a look.


I've long touted McGee as the TB closer of the future and that future could indeed be in 2011 but I don't see a feasable reason why the Rays would try Niemann in the closer spot if he's healthy.

Also, look for me to post a new closers thread in the coming weeks. There is still a lot of player movement that is expected to happen that will influence the bullpen depth of many teams. I expect it to be a very volatile off-season in terms of relievers as the even the most marginal free agent RP is getting about $3 million a year. So, anything posted this early is likely to look very different in the near future.
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/24 update

Postby Kim Bhasin » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:05 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
mblax10 wrote:If TB doesn't sign anybody, I think Jake McGee gets first shot with some possibility of giving Niemann a look.


I've long touted McGee as the TB closer of the future and that future could indeed be in 2011 but I don't see a feasable reason why the Rays would try Niemann in the closer spot if he's healthy.

Also, look for me to post a new closers thread in the coming weeks. There is still a lot of player movement that is expected to happen that will influence the bullpen depth of many teams. I expect it to be a very volatile off-season in terms of relievers as the even the most marginal free agent RP is getting about $3 million a year. So, anything posted this early is likely to look very different in the near future.


There's a couple factors here for McGee.

JP Howell will be back, but he's coming off of shoulder surgery (labrum), so who knows how he'll do in the Spring. Howell closed part time in '09, puts up enough K's (10.7 K/9 in '09), but isn't a traditional closer by any means (slow-toss lefty, sinker knucklecurve change cutter).

Grant Balfour fits the mold much better and there's still a chance they might re-sign him, albeit a small once since they'd be giving up a pick. If Balfour somehow returns he'll be almost certainly closing.

But assuming Howell isn't immediately his old self and Balfour signs elsewhere, I don't think the Rays have any option but to give McGee the first shot. Peralta and Swindle and specialists. Sonnanstine and Russell won't cut it. There's just Jake McGee...
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/24 update

Postby mblax10 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:34 am

Havok1517 wrote:I've long touted McGee as the TB closer of the future and that future could indeed be in 2011 but I don't see a feasable reason why the Rays would try Niemann in the closer spot if he's


TB will have 6 MLB quality starters and I don't think they can leave Hellickson out of the rotation. They tend to make smart decisions, so I can see whoever ends up the 6th starter being utilized in high leverage spots instead of wasting away as a swing man.
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Re: Closers: 2011 ---- 12/24 update

Postby Havok1517 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:59 am

mblax10 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:I've long touted McGee as the TB closer of the future and that future could indeed be in 2011 but I don't see a feasable reason why the Rays would try Niemann in the closer spot if he's


TB will have 6 MLB quality starters and I don't think they can leave Hellickson out of the rotation. They tend to make smart decisions, so I can see whoever ends up the 6th starter being utilized in high leverage spots instead of wasting away as a swing man.


I think if that is the case it'll be Davis as the odd man out unless they trade Garza.
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