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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby StlSluggers » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:40 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:A stern "no" or maybe a time out but you don't hit a 2 yr old. That's child abuse.

I'd smack you around if we ever met, and you're well younger than that.

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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby Tis » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:15 am

Mookie4ever wrote:A stern "no" or maybe a time out but you don't hit a 2 yr old. That's child abuse.


I don't disagree that 2 years is too young. My problem is this:

"You don't spank children today," said Judge Jose Longoria. "In the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don't spank children."


That's way way too much subjective generalization for a judge. So if it was a 6 year old, its still a felony? An 8 year old? Couch the decision in terms of the young age of the kid, not a blanket prohibition on a sometimes perfectly legitimate parenting technique.
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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:28 am

I'm ambivalent on spanking kids as a general but corporal punishment of a 2 year old is ridiculous. They are pretty much completely incapable of learning right from wrong at that point and the only lasting effect will be a latent terror/dislike of their parents. It's pretty much just beating up a baby for the sake of beating up a baby and there should be mild legal consequences.

I think the fact that this was an extreme case was the basis for the ruling, and the quote may have been taken out of context for the sake of conciseness in the article, or in the worst case, bias by the author. For older kids that actually have the expectation of good behavior and the mental capacity of learning right from wrong, I'll wait until the courts punish people on a consistent basis for that to say they're overlegislating parenting.
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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:03 am

Tis wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:A stern "no" or maybe a time out but you don't hit a 2 yr old. That's child abuse.


I don't disagree that 2 years is too young. My problem is this:

"You don't spank children today," said Judge Jose Longoria. "In the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don't spank children."


That's way way too much subjective generalization for a judge. So if it was a 6 year old, its still a felony? An 8 year old? Couch the decision in terms of the young age of the kid, not a blanket prohibition on a sometimes perfectly legitimate parenting technique.

I presumed the quote was pulled out of context in order to make it a news story.
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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby Mookie4ever » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:35 am

bigh0rt wrote:
Tis wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:A stern "no" or maybe a time out but you don't hit a 2 yr old. That's child abuse.


I don't disagree that 2 years is too young. My problem is this:

"You don't spank children today," said Judge Jose Longoria. "In the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don't spank children."


That's way way too much subjective generalization for a judge. So if it was a 6 year old, its still a felony? An 8 year old? Couch the decision in terms of the young age of the kid, not a blanket prohibition on a sometimes perfectly legitimate parenting technique.

I presumed the quote was pulled out of context in order to make it a news story.


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I have no faith in reporters. They'll get a story whether there's one there or not.

Even for a 6 or 8 yr old I'm against corporal punishment just because I don't think that it works as well as other forms of teaching.
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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby knapplc » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:55 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:I'm ambivalent on spanking kids as a general but corporal punishment of a 2 year old is ridiculous. They are pretty much completely incapable of learning right from wrong at that point and the only lasting effect will be a latent terror/dislike of their parents. It's pretty much just beating up a baby for the sake of beating up a baby and there should be mild legal consequences.


This is just about totally wrong. I can't speak from any other experience than my own, but the ONLY time I've ever spanked my child is when she was between two and maybe four years old. I don't think it was necessary after that. And, total, I'd say I probably did it three times, maybe less.

A swift shot to the butt is almost the only thing a very young child understands. You cannot reason with a two-year-old. You cannot "teach" them advanced concepts like morals or anything other than the most basic rights and wrongs. A swat to the butt that stings sends a very clear message to a child.

Of course you don't do it all the time, and of course you don't wale on your kid. If that's what this woman did, then she's wrong. But with a tender little two-year-old hiney, just about any swat is going to leave some kind of mark. On my kid it lasted all of one minute before fading. The tears stopped sooner, but the lesson lasted far longer.

This is the same kid who, as I typed that paragraph, just came in my office and gave me a hug and kiss. I doubt spanking her had any lasting detrimental effects. And now she's old enough to read this, and she's mad that I'm typing about her.

And I have to go because it's time for Mac & Cheese. That I'm making for the girl who loves me unconditionally, even though I spanked her when she was little.
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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby wrveres » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:03 pm

The inside of the appliances (dishwashers), are the perfect breeding ground for fungi associated with potentially deadly illnesses. The moist and hot environment, combined with the alkaline water caused by the dishwasher tablets, means that the machines appear to have created a previously unknown and possibly serious threat to human health, the research paper has suggested.

The scientists studied 189 dishwashers in 101 different homes around the world. They found 62 per cent of dishwashers contained fungi on the rubber band in the door. More than half of these included the black yeasts Exophiala dermatitidis and E. phaeomuriformis which are known to be dangerous to human health. Writing in the journal Fungal Biology, Dr Polona Zalar of the University of Ljubljana, said that "the potential hazard they represent should not be overlooked". Her co-author Nina Gunde-Cimerman told The Daily Telegraph: "One thing that is not in the report is that we tested the dishes after they had been cleaned in these dishwashers and they were full of this black yeast, so too the cutlery that you put in your mouth. We just don't know how serious this could be." Black yeasts are particularly dangerous for people with cystic fibrosis, as they are able to attack the lungs. They have also been found to occasionally cause fatal infections in healthy humans.
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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby markj11 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:40 am

knapplc wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:I'm ambivalent on spanking kids as a general but corporal punishment of a 2 year old is ridiculous. They are pretty much completely incapable of learning right from wrong at that point and the only lasting effect will be a latent terror/dislike of their parents. It's pretty much just beating up a baby for the sake of beating up a baby and there should be mild legal consequences.


This is just about totally wrong. I can't speak from any other experience than my own, but the ONLY time I've ever spanked my child is when she was between two and maybe four years old. I don't think it was necessary after that. And, total, I'd say I probably did it three times, maybe less.

A swift shot to the butt is almost the only thing a very young child understands. You cannot reason with a two-year-old. You cannot "teach" them advanced concepts like morals or anything other than the most basic rights and wrongs. A swat to the butt that stings sends a very clear message to a child.

Of course you don't do it all the time, and of course you don't wale on your kid. If that's what this woman did, then she's wrong. But with a tender little two-year-old hiney, just about any swat is going to leave some kind of mark. On my kid it lasted all of one minute before fading. The tears stopped sooner, but the lesson lasted far longer.

This is the same kid who, as I typed that paragraph, just came in my office and gave me a hug and kiss. I doubt spanking her had any lasting detrimental effects. And now she's old enough to read this, and she's mad that I'm typing about her.

And I have to go because it's time for Mac & Cheese. That I'm making for the girl who loves me unconditionally, even though I spanked her when she was little.


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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby lastingsgriller » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:36 am

wrveres wrote:
The inside of the appliances (dishwashers), are the perfect breeding ground for fungi associated with potentially deadly illnesses. The moist and hot environment, combined with the alkaline water caused by the dishwasher tablets, means that the machines appear to have created a previously unknown and possibly serious threat to human health, the research paper has suggested.

The scientists studied 189 dishwashers in 101 different homes around the world. They found 62 per cent of dishwashers contained fungi on the rubber band in the door. More than half of these included the black yeasts Exophiala dermatitidis and E. phaeomuriformis which are known to be dangerous to human health. Writing in the journal Fungal Biology, Dr Polona Zalar of the University of Ljubljana, said that "the potential hazard they represent should not be overlooked". Her co-author Nina Gunde-Cimerman told The Daily Telegraph: "One thing that is not in the report is that we tested the dishes after they had been cleaned in these dishwashers and they were full of this black yeast, so too the cutlery that you put in your mouth. We just don't know how serious this could be." Black yeasts are particularly dangerous for people with cystic fibrosis, as they are able to attack the lungs. They have also been found to occasionally cause fatal infections in healthy humans.



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Re: News of the weird/funny/pointless

Postby thedude » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:38 pm

He got rid of the cash after a branch of the Royal Bank of Scotland on the Isle of Lewis refused to accept them.

Other banks took similar precautions and refused to accept notes after being warned of a suspected counterfeiting operation in the Western Isles.

Stornoway Police launched an investigation but analysis by the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca) confirmed that the money that was being refused on was in fact real.

The local businessman who took the drastic action of flushing away his money, said: "This is a right mess and it was caused by the RBS and Bank of Scotland.

"This is all about their failure to properly train their local staff on how to spot fake notes. I tore up the pounds20 notes returned to me by the bank as fakes and I put them down the toilet to stop them getting back into circulation.”


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