bigh0rt wrote:Some of the 30 for 30 documentaries that ESPN have run have been some of the best sports television i've watched in years. you guys should check out the one that airs today on the yankees monumental collapse of '04
I've caught the one on Hank Gathers and the Knicks/Pacers rivalry in the 90's. Thought the doc on Hank Gathers was OK, but the Knicks/Pacers one was well done.
Personally, I don't watch ESPN (besides the live games) because of the muppetry that goes on with their shows (Around The Horn) or simply because I just don't watch that much TV. I don't need to listen to any "analyst" who states an opinion for entertainment value mainly, to form a well-formed opinion about the sport. The 30 for 30 documentary series sounds good and all, but I'm not all too interested, unless they had Lakers documentaries or better yet, the beautiful game.
The documentary on the Columbian soccer team/Pablo Escobar angle was arguably the best one of the series. I'm not worthy of being a soccer fan though so I might not know what I'm talking about.
The Artful Dodger wrote:or better yet, the beautiful game.
Check out "The Two Escobars." Very well done 30 for 30 documentary on the 1994 Columbian World Cup Team. Well, it was about far more than that, but the murder of Andres Escobar and the turmoil surrounding the Columbian National Team that year is the thread the ties everything together. Of the handful of 30 for 30s I've seen, this one was the best.
The Artful Dodger wrote:or better yet, the beautiful game.
Check out "The Two Escobars." Very well done 30 for 30 documentary on the 1994 Columbian World Cup Team. Well, it was about far more than that, but the murder of Andres Escobar and the turmoil surrounding the Columbian National Team that year is the thread the ties everything together. Of the handful of 30 for 30s I've seen, this one was the best.
I remember that US-Colombia game very well and it happened to take place at the Rose Bowl. One of my favorite players was Colombian captain Carlos Valderrama (the guy with the crazy bleached fro and the dodgy mustache) and it was a shame what happened to Andres Escobar.
I'll definitely make a note to catch that 30 for 30 then.
Art Vandelay wrote:I haven't seen many of the 30 for 30 documentaries, but of the handful that I have seen, they were all great. PTI is really good, too. Around the Horn, on the other hand, sucks.
Yeah. People who are blindly hating ESPN crack me up. There's a ton of garbage on there, as there is with any other network, and some people have a personal distaste for various talking heads, justified or otherwise (though ESPN does seem to be pretty good about hiring some of the worst possible people to broadcast, do analysis, etc.), but every 30 for 30 I've watched has ranged from very good to superb, and PTI continues to be the best 30 minute daily catch up there is, when Tony and Mike are both on. I was sort of pissed that Saturday night I was stuck with the USC/Washington game instead of Oregon/Stanford, since apparently one is more in my 'region' than the other, but that's neither here nor there They show a lot of big college games in both football and hoops, Monday Night Football, plenty of out of market prime time baseball... saying 'who watches ESPN anymore?' just seems silly, unless you're just not that into sports in general.
Did you bother to check your ABC affiliate for the Ducks game? It should have been on everywhere, at least that's what ESPN had been boasting all week. I personally didn't have that problem since I was sitting in the stands 3rd row.
Yeah I forgot about the 30 at 30's, I agree, those have all been fantastic.
I had Alabama/Florida on abc, I think it was. Either that or that was on ESPN, and I had some other rag game on abc. I checked high and low. I didn't get the game. I was pissed.
But yeah, 30 for 30 -- I've yet to see a bad one. Like I said, they've all ranged from worth watching and good to incredible. Haven't laid an egg yet.