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Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby MrAccoe » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:59 pm

It's that time of year to throw in the towel and look to next year. 12 team 5x5 H2H league with 7 keepers: Who are my last 2?

C - M. Montero
1B - Morneau
2B - Pedroia
3B - A-Rod
SS - Infante
LF - Holliday
CF - Kemp
RF - Pence
UTIL - Lind
Bench - D. Jennings, Adam Laroche

SP - Floyd, Nolasco, Baker, Marcum, Hellickson, Beckett, Duensing, Minor
RP - Francisco Rodriguez, Nathan

I pulled off late season trades for injured Morneau and Pedroia. Should I keep high upside in Hellickson and shallow C position in Montero? Or hope that Lind's season was a sophomore slump? Also Pence has been killing the ball in the 2nd half, is he a keeper? Or do I bank on Nathan or K-Rod to come back healthy next season? Do I keep solid but not spectacular Nolasco or Floyd?

Trade deadline has passed and there is no off-season trading. Keepers end up being our first 7 picks of next year's draft. Appreciate all help. Thanks
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Re: Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby dleoboyd » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:11 pm

When do you have to decide? I'd like to see how Nolasco's knee holds up before declaring him a keeper. However, if he and Beckett are healthy I think they are your final 2 keepers. Beckett has had a bad year, but he's had hiccups before and bounced back fine (see 2006 and 2007). He's only 30 and his K/9 and K/BB ratios have still been solid (far better than in 2006). He'll be back to normal next year.

If you don't feel good about either of them, my 2nd pair would be Desmond Jennings and Jeremy Hellickson. Both have plenty of upside and should be regulars in the TB 2011 lineup/rotation. Adam Lind's bat has come around in July and August. He's still not walking enough, but he's cut down on his Ks significantly and is hitting the ball with more authority. I'm not sure he will be completely back in 2011, but he will be better than 2010 with upside.
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Re: Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby MrAccoe » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:03 pm

Thanks for the help. Don't have to decide for a while, but I wanted to get some early feedback. I'd like to lean towards hitters, but Nolasco and Beckett (if they're healthy) are hard to pass up.
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Re: Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby daswah » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:27 pm

I don't know. I like Montero. Sure, he got hurt this year, but when healthy he's a very solid offensive catcher.

Many of the other players, while also good keepers, will probably be available at similar values as they had this season.

Though, to justify why you should keep someone because maybe they had a bad year? Next year when you're drafting, you might be able to get these guys in later rounds because people aren't looking purely at stats and not having really paid attention.

But who know...it's always a gamble, and we keep the ones we think will be too valueable to lose. But then...I probably take more chances than I should...
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Re: Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby bazzy_51 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:01 pm

Lets start by throwing out players based on pure value alone...

Top players by position:

Hitter - Lind, imo.
Pitcher - Beckett

So, no way that Baker is a better keeper then Beckett on pure value, Duesnsing is not keeper value and Minor/Hellickson most likely won't see full season IPs next year so toss them. That leaves Beckett, Nolasco, Floyd and Marcum. Marcum can be tossed out, he had a good start and a hot middle, but is cooling a bit. Floyd had a very rough start to the season, but has come back strong and is making a case for a keeper, but I still think value supports Beckett and Nolasco over Floyd's inconsistency.

Now onto the bats. IMO its between Pence, Lind and LaRoche. LaRoche is disposable simple because Morneau is a beast and should be healthy to start the year next year. Pence carries slight value over Lind because of individual OF starting spots in your league. On any other club Pence would be a lock for a keeper because he is a lock for a 20/20 and legit for a plus side .280ave, but on the lowly Stros club he doesn't get the R/RBI numbers he deserves. So that basically leaves me with wanting Lind's potential over Pence's real life club.

So, Beckett, Nolasco or Lind? Based on your keepers I really think you have to take a shot on the 2 arms because I have always hated keeping a player just to fill your util position. Long story short I think 2 potential top 15 arms carry more value for your squad next year.
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Re: Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby pjalst » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:02 am

I like Montero Also, I think with a full year next season he could put up some nice numbers.

and Beckett



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Re: Last two Keepers? WHIR!

Postby Seanyfever » Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:53 pm

Beckett in terms of pitching.
Lind/Pence.... I can might actually lean to Pence, but pushed to a decision now, it's Pence. Lind is of interest to me however.

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