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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby lastingsgriller » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:24 pm

albert pujols gets the most out of his talent.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby DbacksRback » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:46 pm

thatguy27 wrote:
m16a wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:How about Utley? He's not short but he's probably under 190 pounds soaking wet. His short compact swing is not pretty but very effective for him.


You're kidding right? It's one of the prettiest in the bigs imho.


No, I wasn't kidding. When I think of pretty swings, I think of long extensions with very fluid motion all the way through the zone (Griffey, Hamilton, etc.). Utley's swing is the exact opposite of pretty, IMO. But as I said, it's damn effective, so it does have its own natural beauty, it's just not pretty in the normal sense.


I still don't get how a short compact swing like this could be considered not pretty :-?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15883003
Thats a pretty and effortless swing in my book.
But he wants a long loopy swing like Heyward which doesn't really do anything for me
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17131799
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby Skin Blues » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:07 pm

Obviously we all have different ideas of "pretty". But I think we can all agree that it's effective. Kind of like David Eckstein trying to throw all the way to first base from short-stop.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby DbacksRback » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:15 pm

Here's the prettiest hr swing of them all...
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby DbacksRback » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:31 pm

The Cubs don't. I was looking at their lineup compared to their record and it doesn't match up:

Fukudome
Castro
A-Ram
Pena
Byrd
Soto
Soriano
Barney
P

Top to bottom that should be VERY solid but they somehow are 39-60? :-°
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby lastingsgriller » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:59 pm

DbacksRback wrote:The Cubs don't. I was looking at their lineup compared to their record and it doesn't match up:

Fukudome
Castro
A-Ram
Pena
Byrd
Soto
Soriano
Barney
P

Top to bottom that should be VERY solid but they somehow are 39-60? :-°



those are not good players. 'cept Aramis and Starlin.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby DbacksRback » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:05 pm

lastingsgriller wrote:
DbacksRback wrote:The Cubs don't. I was looking at their lineup compared to their record and it doesn't match up:

Fukudome
Castro
A-Ram
Pena
Byrd
Soto
Soriano
Barney
P

Top to bottom that should be VERY solid but they somehow are 39-60? :-°



those are not good players. 'cept Aramis and Starlin.


Yea but Pena should be driving in the runs and Byrd is a solid player along with Barney. If Soto played anyhting like 2010 and Soriano wasn't Soriano this is a lot better of a lineup with much more potential than other teams
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:26 pm

Castro is overrated. Not much power, terrible fielder, and can't walk worth a lick. Empty batting average with a touch of speed. Pretty much like Polanco, Castillo, and Sanchez, except they all have the benefits of being good fielders.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby thatguy27 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:48 pm

DbacksRback wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:
m16a wrote:
You're kidding right? It's one of the prettiest in the bigs imho.


No, I wasn't kidding. When I think of pretty swings, I think of long extensions with very fluid motion all the way through the zone (Griffey, Hamilton, etc.). Utley's swing is the exact opposite of pretty, IMO. But as I said, it's damn effective, so it does have its own natural beauty, it's just not pretty in the normal sense.


I still don't get how a short compact swing like this could be considered not pretty :-?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15883003
Thats a pretty and effortless swing in my book.
But he wants a long loopy swing like Heyward which doesn't really do anything for me
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17131799


There is nothing pretty about it IMO... Again, IMO.

And no, I don't want Heyward's swing.

I want this swing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4rZ2Jtc3c
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby thatguy27 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:48 pm

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's an ugly swing. There's something very special about his swing--the fact that he is able to generate so much power and bat speed with such a compact stroke is incredible. But aesthetically pleasing, at least to me, it is not. To each his own.
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