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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby killertofu2222 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:21 pm

Mariano Rivera has pitched his way into the HOF using 1 pitch. That's utilizing talent.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:31 pm

He's not active anymore but I'd but Greg Maddux at the top of my list.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby DbacksRback » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:36 am

I could see Moyer being considered as well...
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:55 am

DbacksRback wrote:I could see Moyer being considered as well...


Moyer's a good one.....but only because of his ability to sustain a certain amount of success over a long period of time, not because he only throws 85 MPH or whatever.

People are taking a certain type of player (diminutive leadoff hitter type in the Eckstein mold or pitchers who don't throw hard but have a lot of control like Maddux) and automatically assuming that those are the types of players who fit this category. I don't think that's the right way to look at a question like this. It's really almost impossible to answer because nobody's really aware how much "talent" a given player came to the majors with in the first place. The only way you can really deduct this at all is to look at their draft standing and even then you're putting your faith into what the scouts believed. Why was Pujols a 13th round pick? Were teams/scouts not informed enough on him or was he really only worth that choice and instead has worked his ass off to get to the level he's at right now? Just a few thoughts.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby m16a » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:44 pm

killertofu2222 wrote:Mariano Rivera has pitched his way into the HOF using 1 pitch. That's utilizing talent.


This. ;-D


That is the very definition of talent. They know what will be coming, you can still win. As much as I dislike the Mo and the Yanks, I gotta give the guy props for it.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby bigken117 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:27 pm

Heyward is a generational talent.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby wrveres » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:33 pm

Haters.

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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby Havok1517 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:08 pm

bigken117 wrote:Heyward is a generational talent.


Pretty big words for a rookie that has spent a lot of time on the mend. I'm not saying he's not a crazy awesome athlete but he has to prove it I think. The same was said about Josh Hamilton and he did prove it, eventually. Plus, I don't think Heyward was thowing near 100MPH like Hamilton was.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby Philliebuster » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:19 am

Ollie Perez - he effing sucks, but undoubtedly has some talent and is raping the Mets for 12+ mil. Now that's getting the most out of your talent.
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Re: Player who gets the most out of his talent

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:04 am

What makes you think that Pujols or Rivera could have not done any better?
Noone knows their limits.
Some of you guys just dont get it.
Aquaman does. But his draft argument is flawed.

Eckstein defies logic and knowledge. He is someone who just doesnt belong. Yet he is there and wont go away. And wins a WS MVP award on top of that.
He is clearly a Player who gets the most out of his talent.

Although he is retired, Maddux was a good example Pogo, so you see the point here.
But Id say Jim Abbott beats Maddux out by an arm lenght.

But for me the player who got the most out of his talent, is 5"7 Spud Webb (NBA) who beat Dominique "the human higlight film" Wilkins at the All-Star game's Slam Dunk contest.
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