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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:07 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:Braun should be a third rounder next year too because he's hitting 20 points lower than his career average right now.


No freaking way. How much stock are you really putting into that one category? Even without average, he's still valuable in 4 hitting categories (and even if you don't count him as advantageous in average, he doesn't hurt you). I can't see him falling all the way to round 3 next year.
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby Neato Torpedo » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:38 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:I hope everyone agrees that Pujols is still the #1 pick next year, barring injury.


Absolutely not....he's well below his averages.

Braun should be a third rounder next year too because he's hitting 20 points lower than his career average right now.

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I said #1 pick, not first round. Read again.
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby John Bonzo » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:39 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:I hope everyone agrees that Pujols is still the #1 pick next year, barring injury.


It depends on how the rest of the season pans out, but if it were ending today I would take Cabrera #1.
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby RedHopeful » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:42 pm

John Bonzo wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:I hope everyone agrees that Pujols is still the #1 pick next year, barring injury.


It depends on how the rest of the season pans out, but if it were ending today I would take Cabrera #1.

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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby Inukchuk » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:54 pm

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:Braun should be a third rounder next year too because he's hitting 20 points lower than his career average right now.


No freaking way. How much stock are you really putting into that one category? Even without average, he's still valuable in 4 hitting categories (and even if you don't count him as advantageous in average, he doesn't hurt you). I can't see him falling all the way to round 3 next year.


Uh, I think you missed the sarcasm there... :-b
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby ramble2 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:20 pm

RedHopeful wrote:
John Bonzo wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:I hope everyone agrees that Pujols is still the #1 pick next year, barring injury.


It depends on how the rest of the season pans out, but if it were ending today I would take Cabrera #1.

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Votto over Cabrera?

Cabrera: 74 R, 26 HR, 93 RBI, 2 SB, .351 BA
Votto: 74 R, 27 HR, 72 RBI, 8 SB, .322 BA

They're the same age, too. Is the argument that the RBIs will balance out next year, and that the extra SB are worth more than the BA?

I don't know, I'd rather go with the guy who's been putting up these numbers for seven years.
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby AquaMan2342 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:09 pm

Inukchuk wrote:
A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:Braun should be a third rounder next year too because he's hitting 20 points lower than his career average right now.


No freaking way. How much stock are you really putting into that one category? Even without average, he's still valuable in 4 hitting categories (and even if you don't count him as advantageous in average, he doesn't hurt you). I can't see him falling all the way to round 3 next year.


Uh, I think you missed the sarcasm there... :-b


Geez, I thought it was obvious this time too. :-b
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby John Bonzo » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:20 pm

ramble2 wrote:
RedHopeful wrote:
John Bonzo wrote:
It depends on how the rest of the season pans out, but if it were ending today I would take Cabrera #1.

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Votto over Cabrera?

Cabrera: 74 R, 26 HR, 93 RBI, 2 SB, .351 BA
Votto: 74 R, 27 HR, 72 RBI, 8 SB, .322 BA

They're the same age, too. Is the argument that the RBIs will balance out next year, and that the extra SB are worth more than the BA?

I don't know, I'd rather go with the guy who's been putting up these numbers for seven years.


and who has proven that he can stay consistently healthy
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby RyeWhiskey » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:59 pm

The Votto vs. MCab talk shouldn't even be a debate.
MCab's career average is .314 - 33 - 120 - 100 for a full season starting with '03 when he was 20 years old.
His worst year, collecting stats from his career would be .292 - 26 - 103 - 85... that's one thing: money in the bank. Votto has the potential to be a #1 pick but you'd be a fool to bet on his upside over MCab's proven reliability, especially with your 1st round pick.

As for Braun, I'm not concerned. Braun is a notorious streak hitter and he seems to be moving out of a bad previous month hitting .440 last week.
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Re: Pujols and Hanley

Postby thejusman1 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:05 pm

I don't know about taking MCab before Pujols, but I would probably take him before Hanley next year.
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