Two trades (dynasty) need advice

[HighHeater]

Ok, trade deadline is August 15th for this league. I have two offers I am contemplating that I will list below after I post my roster. My team is looking like a contender by 2012 at the earliest since I started my rebuild. Mind you I value hitters way more then pitchers as they are more valuable and dependable

14 team basic yahoo scoring.

1st trade: I send (2B)Neil Walker I receive (OF)Jayson Werth

2nd trade: I send Giovany Soto/Billy Butler/Javier Vazquez
I receive Matt Weiters/Ryan Kalish/Felix Hernandez
future 1st pick

Roster:

C: Giovany Soto
1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Gordon Beckham
SS: Stephen Drew
IN: Billy Butler
OF: Justin Upton
OF: Bj Upton
OF: Juan Pierre
UTIL: Angel Pagan

Bench
OF Desmond Jennings
C Jesus Montero
1B Eric Hosmer
2B Neil Walker
C Jon Jaso
3B Chris Johnson

Rotation:

SP: Matt Cain
SP: Ricky Nolasco
SP: Matt Latos
SP: Gio Gonzalez
SP: Javier Vazquez
RP: Luke Gregerson
RP: Chris Perez

Bench
SP Derrek Holland
SP Jordan Zimmermann
SP Aroldis Chapman
SP Jarrod Parker
SP Andy Oliver
SP Tanner Scheppers
RP Joba Chamberlain

[kidsilk]

I would do both trades actually. I like what you are getting and it betters your team and will help you out for 2011 and beyond in my opinion.

please help

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[bobnerns]

I would definitely take both trades. Werth is solid all-around. I think he would be very good on your team. Then Wieters will be much better than Soto, more than likely as soon as next season. King Felix is a beast while Vazquez is just good. And losing Butler here is well worth it for who you're getting.

Help with mine?
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[HighHeater]

my only real problems with these are:

A Werth is allready 30 and the majority of my team is on the up not even at their peak yet so by the time (guessing 2012?) its ready with the natural growth of the blocks now and prospects like hosmer/Montero/jennings Werth might be and possibly could be on the decline

B Hitters are far more important then Pitchers. I generally always take the stud hitter over the pitcher due to consistency and durability. I wouldn't take Felix for Butler in a 1 for 1 myself due to Butlers consitency and developing power. Also specs bust all the time ala Bruce, Gordon, BJ Upton to an extent, Delmon Young list goes on... Soto is a much better hitter now and still just three years older then Weiters. Theres a very good chance Weiters does not catch soto's output for a few years and im not sure i would put that down as a lock right now. I do have a plethora of top spec talent on the way in Chapman/Scheppers/Parker/zimmermann to go with my young rotation as is. So im stuck asking myself if this is the route to go personaly as I dont think the second trades potentialy helps me all that much imo. i am considering the werth trade more closely now just worried about natural decline by the time this team is ready