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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby MashinSpuds » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:59 pm

This must be some Billy Beane-ish move we don't know anything about until we get to the hindsight aspect of it. That must be it.
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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:18 pm

BitterDodgerFan wrote:saunders is good....
in opposite land :-D

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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby Grounded Polo » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:36 pm

This redefines fail for me. What a terrible move by Arizona, got nothing of value in return clearly.
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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby HighHeater » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:18 pm

moochman wrote:
mweir145 wrote:Is this just a case of the D'Backs badly overvaluing Saunders?

Because I just don't understand how the Yankees (or any other team in baseball) couldn't have beaten this offer with ease.



Rumors in Detroit were that the DBacks were asking for top prospect Jacob Turner, lefty Andrew Oliver, and Charles Furbush. These are the better Tiger pitching prospects. So why did Zona settle for what seems like such a bad deal? Was it a pride thing? like he wasn't going to go back to Boston or the Yanks and revisit counter offers? Making your team stink is not a sound cost cutting technique. Gotta wonder what went wrong.



Andrew Oliver is a much higher reguarded prospect then anything they got in return let alone Jacob turner(would of been a stud in zona imo)

I am not sure if Detroit offered or agreed to any of that but Zona got ripped off so bad its just blatantly sad.

Give it up to the Front Office of Arizona they really blew this why on earth do you fire your GM who assembled a decent team then let a none experience personel make a decision like this is beyond me.

i feel sorry for Justin Upton right about now for signing that extension there
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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby AussieDodger » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:51 pm

Wow.
Yes, the Diamondbacks sold Haren for a handful of magic beans and lottery tickets, but you have to consider that Haren had a no-trade clause blocking at least 12 teams, and he was pretty adamant that he wanted to play on the west coast. Seeing as how LAD, SD and SF are all in the NL West with Arizona , that probably didn't leave too many options for DiPoto. Seattle are selling not buying, and Oakland definitely couldn't afford 12+12+15 without Arizona chipping in some cash - which wasn't happening. Oakland were also probably a non-starter because of the embarrassment factor of trading back where he came from after Billy pillaged their farm.

So the Angels realised all this and took advantage. :-t
Obviously the D'Backs' backwards ownership had a hand in this, because seriously who WANTS to receive Saunders (and pay him)? %-6 :-P %-6 :-P


mrmarley wrote:Wow, talk about selling low. Made worse by the fact that they traded these 6 guys to get less than three years ago:

Pitchers Brett Anderson, Dana Eveland and Greg Smith; infielder Chris Carter; and outfielders Aaron Cunningham and Carlos Gonzalez.


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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby Havok1517 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:08 am

I'm going to hold out until final opinion until we find out who the PTNL is for sure.
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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby mblax10 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:32 am

Tyler Skaggs is being reported by multiple outlets. He signed Aug 7, 2009 so he's not allowed to be traded for another 2 weeks.

For those wondering Trout singed in July. I couldn't imagine Tony Reagins trading him for anybody.
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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:39 am

almightycooldude (12:15:47 AM): We achieved by maintaining major league quality with a 2008 All-Star in Joe Saunders and a guy who quite frankly has been one of the winners in Major League Baseball. I think he trails only Roy Halladay among major leaguers in total wins. He’s won 63 percent of his games since coming to the major leagues, pitched in the postseason on two different occasions.
almightycooldude (12:15:53 AM): the d-backs GM
almightycooldude (12:15:55 AM): lololololol
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Re: Haren to Angels

Postby wrveres » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:19 am

I own Haren in a NL only, and i am glad he is gone ..

He was killing me over the last month or two, and to be quite honest, i'm glad he is out of the friggin division.
Now if only Sabean would send Lincecumbutnutt to the Orioles or something ..


go padres!
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