WHIR! Span, Pagan, Pierre, Fowler, Rodriguez.....WHIR

[Tom Emanski AllStars]

Pick one of each for my team and league:

Pick a SS:
Alexei Rameriz
Cliff Pennington
Yunel Escobar
Jason Bartlet
Stephen Drew

Pick an extra OF:
Angel Pagan
Juan Pierre
Denard Span
Sean Rodriguez (2b/of)
Dexter Fowler

In a perfect world I like to add as much speed to my team as possible without sacrificing in other categories.


10 team - H2H- 6x6 - nonkeeper - daily changes - max adds per week = 3
(R,HR,RBI,AVG,OBP,SB --- W,QS, SV,K,ERA,WHIP)

C-Buster Posey (c/1b)
1B-Albert Pujols (1b)
2B-Rickie Weeks (2b)
3B-Evan Longoria (3b)
SS-Cliff Pennington (ss)
OF-Andre Ethier (of)
OF-Carlos Quentin (of)
OF-Jason Werth (of)
Util-Joey Votto (1b)
BN-David Ortiz (1b)
BN-Juan Pierre (of)

SP-Jorge De La Rosa
SP-John Lester
RP-Carlos Marmol
RP-Octavio Dotel
P-John Axford
P-Matt Garza
P-Francisco Liriano
BN-Clay Buchholz DL
BN-Max Scherzer
BN-Ryan Dempster
DL-Yovani Gallardo

[Seanyfever]

Hard to argue against Pierre is you are solely about speed. I likely prefer Span for overall contributions.

In other group, I am simply going to suggest Escobar.

Thanks for your post

[Choptoberfest]

I still have Escobar, clinging to hope that he will play the second half like 2009.

With the OF, I say Angel Pagan.

[Tom Emanski AllStars]

no love for Pagan, after Manuel's vote of confidence. Pagan will still be an everyday player when Beltran returns and he's put up Span like numbers in the SB cat.

i'm not solely about speed, i'd be willing to sacrifice some speed for further category production and Span and Pagan would provide that.


why Escobar? just a feeling?

thanks for the help

[plapre3]

I think I'd stand pat with Penningon. He's been one of the best hitters in fantasy over the past month and until he proves otherwise, you gotta hold on to him. The only other guy out of the bunch that I'd consider is Drew. He has the upside and can be a more than serviceable option, but I think you have to wait to see signs of life first. I'd pass completely on guys like A-Ram given a lack of on base skills.

OF is a little more interesting. In OBP leagues that also count AVG, I think it's essential to get the highest OBP guys possible. Fowler scares me as he should lose playing time in that crowded OF. If something breaks, say a Hawpe trade, then I think he's the guy to grab out of the bunch. Since he's not, it comes down to Pagan and Span. Both guys have shown very nice on base skills and have hit for a high average. As a Mets fan, I'm very confident that they will do the right thing and relegate Frenchy to the bench role he deserves, so Pagan should maintain this value. The BA will come down a bit and likely the power too, but he will provide nice value in your setup for the rest of the season. On the flipside, the Span of last year was the perfect guy for you setup, hitting over .300 and getting on base at a nearly .400 clip. This year, he's struggled to reach those marks, but his babip seems a bit low (.300) for such a fast guy. He's also striking out less this season, which bodes well for a comback. I like him in atop the Twins offense a lot, so if he begins to rebound, he's likely my choice. For now, though, I'd probably go with Pagan and keep a close watch on Span, since he's been under the mendoza line in July. As for Pierre, he'll obviously get more steals than these guys, but he seems to be more of a .280 hitter than their respective .300 upsides, won't provide any power of any sort, and has historically not displayed the same on base skills. In terms of overall value, Pag/Span have the edge. If you really just want steals, stick with Pierre.

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[petert]

right off the bat Pierre for sure, he is not going to slow down this year......
as far as SS. I think Barlett....again i say i think.

[Choptoberfest]

no love for Pagan, after Manuel's vote of confidence. Pagan will still be an everyday player when Beltran returns and he's put up Span like numbers in the SB cat.

i'm not solely about speed, i'd be willing to sacrifice some speed for further category production and Span and Pagan would provide that.


why Escobar? just a feeling?

thanks for the help

I'm a Braves fan, so I see him everyday. While he has been abysmal this season, I know what he's capable of. So it might be hometown bias, but then again my other shortstop is Bartlett. I haven't been getting much production out of my SS position all season.

[Tom Emanski AllStars]

any other opinions?

i'm leaning toward Pagan and either Pennington / Ramirez (hot CWS) / Bartlett (though he might be the odd man out if the Rays land C.Hart)

[ck41885]

I'd go with Pagan as your OF. As for the SS's, they aren't that different from each other so I'd probably just ride whoever's hot. So for now, go with Pennington.

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[orejed]

I too would stick with Pennington. I realize that Escobar could turn things around but why not get better numbers until that happens? The best option on paper now imho is Pennington. As for the extra OF I would have to go with Pagan, solid numbers and though not as many steals as Pierre he would not be the drag on average that Pierre is.