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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby killertofu2222 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:24 am

bluejkrew wrote:Anyone have insight to some 3B sleepers who are available in most leagues?

Gordon Beckham (2B with 3B eligibility) seems like he might be turning around..


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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby Montana168 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:47 am

ayebatter wrote:
Montana168 wrote:Of course, setting aside season-ending injuries. A-rod could go out and break his leg tomorrow and sandoval will have the better 2nd half because he's on the field, and vice versa. Sandoval's power ceiling (25-30 HR) is A-rod's floor. !+)


Projecting plate appearances is an important part of the numbers, if you don't, you'll be left holding the bag on a a great player who's losing at bats.


I was referring to unpredictable incidents like when a player hits a walk-off HR and jumps onto home plate and snaps his ankle (i'm looking at you kendry morales), those injuries are 100% unpredictable.
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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby thatguy27 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:45 pm

I think I'd have to put Wright at #1 for his all around category contributions, but Longo is close a close second. I don't expect Longo to maintain his SB pace and his AVG will likely be a bit lower than Wright's, but their other numbers should be comparable across the board. For some reason, I have never trusted Youk, but for completely irrational reasons - I hate his batting stance and his facial hair, really I just hate how he looks. But from a rational point of view, he also historically performs significantly worse in the second half, so, my rankings would be something like this:

Wright
Longo

ARod
Zimmerman

Youk


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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:39 pm

thatguy27 wrote:I think I'd have to put Wright at #1 for his all around category contributions, but Longo is close a close second.

The thing about projecting Wright for the rest of the year is that he strikes out a TON compared to the old David Wright (more than 1.5 times as much as 2008), and he plays in Citi Field. Since he's striking out a ton now, he has less chances to put the ball in play and more of a handicap on his AVG. He's been getting good results so far, but if his success on batted balls from now on reflects '05 to '08 closer than '09 and half of '10, his AVG is going to go down to .270 or so. Also, Citi Field is notorious for suppressing home runs; remember, Wright had a grand total of 10 HR in 144 games last year. Longo doesn't have these problems, so that's why he should be #1.
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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby thatguy27 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:22 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:I think I'd have to put Wright at #1 for his all around category contributions, but Longo is close a close second.

The thing about projecting Wright for the rest of the year is that he strikes out a TON compared to the old David Wright (more than 1.5 times as much as 2008), and he plays in Citi Field. Since he's striking out a ton now, he has less chances to put the ball in play and more of a handicap on his AVG. He's been getting good results so far, but if his success on batted balls from now on reflects '05 to '08 closer than '09 and half of '10, his AVG is going to go down to .270 or so. Also, Citi Field is notorious for suppressing home runs; remember, Wright had a grand total of 10 HR in 144 games last year. Longo doesn't have these problems, so that's why he should be #1.


True, but with just 4 K's in his past 11 games, he's trending in the right direction. Of course, he hasn't provided much in the way of counting stats during that period, so perhaps he's at a point where he needs to be more of a free swinger to hit for power - I really don't know. He's an enigma wrapped in a mystery.
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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby Neato Torpedo » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:12 pm

11 games isn't enough to call it a trend. Earlier this year he had a string of 5 K's in 9 games, but then he struck out in 23 of his next 86 AB. Wright is an elite player but I don't think anyone described as an "enigma" should be considered #1 at their position.
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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby teezy33 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:56 pm

Aramis is thawing out a bit...just sayin.
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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby Padsin05 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:03 pm

thatguy27 wrote:I think I'd have to put Wright at #1 for his all around category contributions, but Longo is close a close second. I don't expect Longo to maintain his SB pace and his AVG will likely be a bit lower than Wright's, but their other numbers should be comparable across the board. For some reason, I have never trusted Youk, but for completely irrational reasons - I hate his batting stance and his facial hair, really I just hate how he looks. But from a rational point of view, he also historically performs significantly worse in the second half, so, my rankings would be something like this:


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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby nsulham » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:36 am

I'd say ARam is jumping up that list a bit :-°
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Re: 3B the rest of the way

Postby DaSh 1s » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:56 am

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