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Postby vykeengfan » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:36 am

Earlier an owner in my league who I've been having informal trade discussions with told me an offer that another owner(our commish) offered him for the same player I was targeting. He then asked if I could top the offer. Would you guys consider this unethical? It sucks cuz we're all friends in this league, too. I was hanging w/ our commish and he even told me he was in discussions for a big trade. Should I tell the commish? I told the other guy to just look at my roster and make me a deal.
What do you guys think?
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Postby drunkmonkey » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:57 am

Why would that be unethical? I'm sure MLB teams do this all the time. It seems like good GM strategy to me.
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Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

Postby Havok1517 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:29 am

This was exactly what the Mariners just did with Cliff Lee. The Twins offered Hicks & Ramos, Yankees Montero, and then the Mariners like Smoak over them. I'm sure they asked all those teams if they could beat those offers. Nothing at all with that strategy.
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Postby AussieDodger » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:33 am

vykeengfan wrote:Earlier an owner in my league who I've been having informal trade discussions with told me an offer that another owner(our commish) offered him for the same player I was targeting. He then asked if I could top the offer. Would you guys consider this unethical? It sucks cuz we're all friends in this league, too. I was hanging w/ our commish and he even told me he was in discussions for a big trade. Should I tell the commish? I told the other guy to just look at my roster and make me a deal.
What do you guys think?


That'd be fine with me. It was nice of him to tell you what you're up against.
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Postby Seanyfever » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:04 am

Agreed. You obviously are learning the going rate on your to be traded players.... I like it... Better than overpaying vastly.

I can easily live with it.
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Postby kab21 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:25 am

This is perfectly acceptable. Sometimes it's a bluff, sometimes it isn't. And it's negotiating.

Taking this thread in a different direction. The first thing that I thought of was that one owner posted an owner's trade proposal for the league to see. Now this would be pretty low but I'm pretty close to doing this since I've been getting the same lopsided offers from the same owner all season. I've started sending back by own horrendously lopsided offers in the hope that he understands that he's an idiot.
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Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

Postby fast dogs » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:40 am

So the question is "Is it unethical to reveal another managers trade offer?" or is it a regular part of baseball just trying to get the best deal. If you are hesitant to get into a bidding war knowing someone else's deal just make your offer stand on its own. Of course just because you top the other deal doesn't mean he won't go back to the commish and say ok, you gotta beat this to him. I prefer to say something like I have a better offer w/o revealing names. I haven't read the unwritten-rules-for-ethical-fantasy-play book, but I'm not sure this really qualifies. At least he is being honest, even if it makes you a little uncomfortable.
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Postby thedude » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:14 am

This is very acceptable. Stuff like this happens all the time in fantasy baseball, sports, and business.
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Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

Postby Cream » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:21 am

kab21 wrote:This is perfectly acceptable. Sometimes it's a bluff, sometimes it isn't. And it's negotiating.

Taking this thread in a different direction. The first thing that I thought of was that one owner posted an owner's trade proposal for the league to see. Now this would be pretty low but I'm pretty close to doing this since I've been getting the same lopsided offers from the same owner all season. I've started sending back by own horrendously lopsided offers in the hope that he understands that he's an idiot.


I've had the same thing happen to me over the past few months. I responded the same way by sending back ridiculous proposals. I'm debating the same approach by posting some of the offers, but probably won't as that is probably taking it too far. The problem is, this guy is notorious for sending bogus offers.
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Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

Postby JMB05 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:48 pm

What part is unethical?

Maximizing the trade value of a player?

He sounds like a smart manager.
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