mweir145 wrote:It's notable to me that arguably the greatest pitcher of all time in Clemens hasn't made this list. Guess he never made many fans in his four cities.
I guess just like some of the other players of his era, the more recent extra-curricular shenanigans have blurred what Clemens was. You can understand people not wanting to vote for a cowardly paedophile.
Even changing his name to "Rodger" couldn't hide his ugly past...
jfg wrote:Wow, I hadn't even noticed that. He was on my shortlist, but didn't make the cut. I think only Cobb tops him as the biggest jerk ever in baseball, but still, like you say, he might be the greatest ever.
There's only one name on that list whose dominance caused MLB to change the rules of the game to give hitters a chance. And as of right now he's not making the cut.
jfg wrote:Wow, I hadn't even noticed that. He was on my shortlist, but didn't make the cut. I think only Cobb tops him as the biggest jerk ever in baseball, but still, like you say, he might be the greatest ever.
There's only one name on that list whose dominance caused MLB to change the rules of the game to give hitters a chance. And as of right now he's not making the cut.
Which is why this kind of poll is refreshing. Had it been called "whose the best of all time?" I'm sure he'd be right up there, but it's not. It's who is your personal favorite?
AquaMan2342 wrote:Some entries were missing I noticed, so I put them back. Pony League-era AquaMan2342 (+1)
Voting for yourself. How pathetic.
I was so good though
I really wanted to vote for Babe Ruth league LastingsGriller here, but in all honesty 1990 Jose Rijo truely outshined LastingsGriller. even to the point that LastingGriller idolized 1990 Jose Rijo, so Jose got the nod.
Sandy Koufax (+14) Nolan Ryan (+14) Pedro Martinez (+14)
Roy Halladay (+7)
Tim Lincecum (+6) Bob Gibson (+6) Dwight Gooden (+6)
Tom Seaver (+4) John Smoltz (+5) Curt Schilling (+5)
Johan Santana (+4) Satchel Paige (+4) Walter Johnson (+4)
Tom Glavine (+3) Ubaldo Jimenez (+3) Hideo Nomo (+3) Dizzy Dean (+3) Mark Prior (+3) Andy Pettite (+3) Jose Rijo (+3) Jon Lester (+3) Felix Hernandez (+3)
Al Leiter (+2) Orel Hershiser (+2) Steve Carlton (+2) Jose Líma (+2) Max Scherzer (+2) Old Hoss Radbourn (+2) Carl Hubbell (+2) Phil Niekro(+2) Warren Spahn (+2) Cy Young (+2) Jamie Moyer (+2) Cliff Lee (+2) Jake Peavy (+2) Brad Radke (+2) Jack Morris (+2) Catfish Hunter (+2) David Cone (+2) Tim Wakefield (+2) Clayton Kershaw (+2) Stephen Strasburg (+2)
Rodger Clemens (+1) Mike Mussina (+1) Chris Carpenter (+1) Adam Wainwright (+1) Robin Roberts (+1) Cole Hamels (+1) Frank Tanana (+1) Vida Blue (+1) Dave Stewart (+1) Bob Feller (+1) Steve Dalkowski (+1) Francisco Liriano (+1) Bret Saberhagen (+1) Gio Gonzalez (+1) Mat Latos (+1) Ron Darling (+1) Lefty Grove (+1) Mickey Lolich (+1) Mark Langston (+1) Jim Palmer (+1) Jake Arietta (+1) Barry Zito (+1) Charlie Hough (+1) Gaylord Perry (+1) Juan Marichal (+1) Woody Williams (+1) Kenny Rogers (+1) Orlando Hernandez (+1) Jimmy Key (+1) Phil Hughes (+1) Mike Pelfrey (+1) Tim Hudson (+1) Zack Grienke (+1) Bert Blyleven (+1) Frank Viola (+1) Ron Guidry(+1) Whitey Ford(+1) Mark Fidrych(+1) Dennis Martinez (+1) Bill "Spaceman" Lee (+1) Pascual Perez (+1) Steve Avery (+1) Doug Drabek (+1) Derek Lowe (+1) Josh Beckett (+1) Bronson Arroyo (+1) Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd (+1) Luis Tiant (+1) CC Sabathia (+1) Pat Hentgen (+1) Juan Guzman (+1) AJ Burnett (+1) Josh Towers (+1)
mweir145 wrote:It's notable to me that arguably the greatest pitcher of all time in Clemens hasn't made this list. Guess he never made many fans in his four cities.
I guess just like some of the other players of his era, the more recent extra-curricular shenanigans have blurred what Clemens was. You can understand people not wanting to vote for a cowardly paedophile.
People have been fans of far worse people than Roger Clemens.
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