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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby Maris09 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:38 am

jake_harv88 wrote:dude give it up already. Your personal vendetta is easily the most annoying thing on the leftovers board right now...

Just makin a joke. You can go ahead and take it easy.


Also, not sure you'd be too happy if it kept happening to you.
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby StlSluggers » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:44 am

guys... both of you... calm down
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:25 pm

You can get this awfully close for hitters with some minor modifications. Kind of interesting...

HR + (SB/1.65) + [(H-.280*AB)*.6]+ R/3 + RBI/3

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.   Player       Formula Points    For. Rank	  Yahoo Rank
Miguel Cabrera 64.27 1 1
Josh Hamilton 64.13 2 2
Robinson Canó 63.37 3 3
Carl Crawford 58.53 4 4
Álex Ríos 58.42 5 5
V. Guerrero 57.55 6 6
Justin Morneau 56.94 7 7
Kevin Youkilis 54.12 8 8
Joey Votto 54.11 9 9
Albert Pujols 53.46 10 11
Evan Longoria 53.3 11 10
David Wright 52.43 12 13
Ryan Braun 51.73 13 12
Paul Konerko 50.86 14 15
Adrián González 50.85 15 16
Michael Young 49.79 16 14
Ryan Howard 48.5 17 19
Hanley Ramírez 48.47 18 18
Corey Hart 48.25 19 24
Chris Young 47.82 20 22
Brett Gardner 47.31 21 17
Torii Hunter 47.16 22 23
Adrián Béltre 46.68 23 31
Scott Rolen 46.55 24 32
Martín Prado 46.44 25 20
José Bautista 46.43 26 28
B. Phillips 46.07 27 21
Magglio Ordóñez 45.82 28 25
Carlos González 45.78 29 26
Vernon Wells 45.72 30 38
Shin-Soo Choo 45.37 31 27
Matt Holliday 45.32 32 34
Colby Rasmus 45.04 33 36
Justin Upton 44.74 34 33
Troy Glaus 44.73 35 40
A. McCutchen 44.66 36 30
Adam Dunn 44.35 37 43
Jayson Werth 44.22 38 41
José Reyes 44.07 39 29
Aubrey Huff 43.96 40 42
Troy Tulowitzki 43.96 41 37
Andre Ethier 43.96 42 47
Matt Kemp 43.91 43 35
Nick Swisher 43.83 44 39
Marlon Byrd 43.43 45 45
Shane Victorino 42.8 46 44
Ichiro Suzuki 42.53 47 50
Josh Willingham 41.94 48 52
Dustin Pedroia 41.9 49 46
James Loney 41.19 50 51
Ángel Pagán 41.18 51 48
José Guillén 41.17 52 55
Derek Jeter 41 53 49
Kelly Johnson 40.75 54 54
Dan Uggla 40.54 55 53
Ryan Zimmerman 40.47 56 58
Mark Reynolds 40.3 57 57
Delmon Young 39.9 58 61
Jason Heyward 39.6 59 59
Garrett Jones 39.59 60 63
Brennan Boesch 39.4 61 73
Bobby Abreu 39.27 62 56
Álex Rodríguez 39.21 63 62
David Ortiz 39.09 64 68
Billy Butler 39.06 65 64
Rickie Weeks 38.97 66 60
Casey McGehee 38.69 67 70
Scott Podsednik 38.06 68 65
Chase Utley 37.6 69 67
Howie Kendrick 37.59 70 71
Ryan Ludwick 37.35 71 74
Jonny Gomes 37.28 72 80
Juan Uribe 37.12 73 79
Hunter Pence 37.11 74 75
Ben Zobrist 37 75 76
Cody Ross 36.99 76 72
Nelson Cruz 36.89 77 89
David DeJesús 36.85 78 77
Jay Bruce 36.65 79 78
B.J. Upton 36.64 80 66
Alfonso Soriano 36.5 81 82
Adam LaRoche 36.31 82 81
Álex González 36.08 83 87
Víctor Martínez 35.96 84 84
Gaby Sánchez 35.65 85 86
Miguel Olivo 35.25 86 90
Elvis Andrus 35.16 87 69
Mark Teixeira 34.86 88 83
Jorge Cantú 34.85 89 91
Kendry Morales 34.84 90 94
Ty Wigginton 34.51 91 96
Rajai Davis 34.1 92 88
Denard Span 33.53 93 85
J.D. Drew 33.34 94 93
K. Kouzmanoff 33.26 95 98
Prince Fielder 32.96 96 97
Jason Bay 32.56 97 92
Jeff Francoeur 32.06 98 101
Carlos Peña 31.79 99 104
Plácido Polanco 31.78 100 102
Chris Coghlan 31.62 101 95
Austin Kearns 31.47 102 103
Drew Stubbs 31.44 103 100
Joe Mauer 31.42 104 99
John Buck 31.27 105 111
A. Callaspo 31.17 106 105
Manny Ramírez 30.88 107 107
Michael Cuddyer 30.53 108 106
Carlos Quentin 30.04 109 108
Seth Smith 29.95 110 115
F. Gutiérrez 29.67 111 112
Ike Davis 29.29 112 114
Luke Scott 29.17 113 125
Adam Jones 29.11 114 120
Ian Stewart 28.82 115 118
Pablo Sandoval 28.59 116 117
Chase Headley 28.55 117 109
Austin Jackson 28.52 118 110
David Freese 28.44 119 122
Brian McCann 28.35 120 124
Juan Rivera 28.28 121 123
Andrés Torres 27.79 122 119
Will Venable 27.79 123 121
Marco Scutaro 27.58 124 116
Mike Napoli 26.91 125 134
Michael Bourn 26.89 126 113
Stephen Drew 26.85 127 128
Orlando Hudson 26.54 128 126
Julio Borbón 26.44 129 132
Ryan Theriot 26.42 130 127
Fred Lewis 26.3 131 131
Hideki Matsui 26.24 132 137
Jason Kubel 26.14 133 139
Tyler Colvin 25.88 134 143
Rod Barajas 25.78 135 141
Johnny Damon 25.74 136 130
Jorge Posada 25.57 137 144
Juan Pierre 25.53 138 129
Derrek Lee 25.33 139 135
Rafael Furcal 24.66 140 136
Kosuke Fukudome 24.52 141 148
Carlos Lee 24.52 142 146
Y. Betancourt 24.44 143 138
Erick Aybar 24.42 144 133
Russell Branyan 24.15 145 152
Nick Markakis 24.02 146 147
Kurt Suzuki 24.02 147 154
Eric Hinske 24.02 148 149
Ryan Sweeney 23.83 149 142
Ronny Paulino 23.8 150 150
Cristian Guzmán 23.56 151 145
C. Granderson 23.18 152 153
Ian Kinsler 23.16 153 140
Alexei Ramírez 23.12 154 151
Daric Barton 22.28 155 155
Chipper Jones 22.24 156 156
Travis Hafner 21.73 157 162
Justin Smoak 21.56 158 161
Ian Desmond 21.42 159 159
Sean Rodriguez 21.35 160 160
Jhonny Peralta 21.34 161 158
Casey Blake 21.24 162 164
Andruw Jones 21.24 163 169
Orlando Cabrera 21.11 164 157
Geovany Soto 20.75 165 170
Lyle Overbay 20.24 166 163
John Jaso 20.03 167 171
Raúl Ibañez 19.97 168 166
Lance Berkman 19.84 169 172
Nick Hundley 19.81 170 175
D. McDonald 19.63 171 179
Jeff Keppinger 19.54 172 165
Brandon Inge 19.5 173 180
Cameron Maybin 19.33 174 167
Roger Bernadina 19.31 175 185
Mike Aviles 19.15 176 173
Miguel Tejada 19.13 177 177
Carlos Guillén 19.11 178 184
Brad Hawpe 19.1 179 188
Russell Martin 18.91 180 168
C. Pennington 18.67 181 174
Chris Snyder 18.38 182 193
Iván Rodríguez 18.19 183 190
Reid Brignac 18.16 184 183
Alcides Escobar 18.05 185 178
Carlos Gómez 18.02 186 182
Omar Infante 17.95 187 186
Chone Figgins 17.72 188 176
David Eckstein 17.7 189 187
Melky Cabrera 17.5 190 189
Ryan Doumit 17.3 191 200
J. Hairston Jr. 17.22 192 194
Scott Hairston 17.12 193 197
Nyjer Morgan 17.07 194 181
David Murphy 17.04 195 192
Milton Bradley 16.76 196 199
Aaron Hill 16.67 197 196
Adam Lind 16.65 198 195
Trevor Crowe 16.29 199 198
Skip Schumaker 15.54 200 191
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby GoodOl'Days » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:05 am

jake_harv88 wrote:
Maris09 wrote:
wrveres wrote:they have a formula? :-o

They certainly do.

- It's 2 parts correct stats from Monday thru Saturday.
- Mixed with 1 part uncorrectable stats from Sunday.
- Shaken over ice and served in a chilled sorry we don't have the "tool" to fix anything that happens on a Sunday.

It's delicious.


dude give it up already. Your personal vendetta is easily the most annoying thing on the leftovers board right now...


I thought it was quite funny. I'd rather see it that what you wrote. I know the formula Yahoo! uses, it's very similar to the baseballmonster link posted above, using STD DEVP and eliminating some outliers. Rate stats are calculated this way(adjust for baseball): http://www.fantasybasketballcafe.com/fo ... 01#p272701
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:18 pm

jake_twothousandfive wrote:You can get this awfully close for hitters with some minor modifications. Kind of interesting...

HR + (SB/1.65) + [(H-.280*AB)*.6]+ R/3 + RBI/3

Great job, that's pretty good. One thing though, I see speedsters consistently ranked higher in Yahoo than by this formula. Looking at guys like Gardner, BJUp, Andrus, Reyes, Nyjer, Figgins, etc. Then again, that might also be because Yahoo puts more value to AVG (and the number of ABs used to derive that value) than the formula you're using, because Cruz and Boesch have fewer AB while speedy leadoff hitters have more.

What would HR + (SB/1.67) + [(H-.2725*AB)*.6]+ R/3 + RBI/3 look like?
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:21 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
jake_twothousandfive wrote:You can get this awfully close for hitters with some minor modifications. Kind of interesting...

HR + (SB/1.65) + [(H-.280*AB)*.6]+ R/3 + RBI/3

Great job, that's pretty good. One thing though, I see speedsters consistently ranked higher in Yahoo than by this formula. Looking at guys like Gardner, BJUp, Andrus, Reyes, Nyjer, Figgins, etc. Then again, that might also be because Yahoo puts more value to AVG (and the number of ABs used to derive that value) than the formula you're using, because Cruz and Boesch have fewer AB while speedy leadoff hitters have more.

What would HR + (SB/1.67) + [(H-.2725*AB)*.6]+ R/3 + RBI/3 look like?

I think you meant something like (SB/1.63). Dividing SB by a higher number will decrease it's weight in the formula further. :-?
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:26 pm

Er, yeah, my bad. !+)
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby swyck » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:13 am

wrveres wrote:they have a formula? :-o

:-X
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby brock middlebrook » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:12 am

What would taking the total z-Score from those 5 categories look like?
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby kevinbaseballer » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:44 pm

I think its:

Phase 1: Collect underpants

Phase 2: ? ? ? ?

Phase 3: Profits
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