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Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby coolconman » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:48 am

I am in a league that counts additional stats to the standard 5x5, and would like to assign rankings based on the stats we use, or at least get a better idea of where certain players should be ranked. Thanks.
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby wrveres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:39 pm

they have a formula? :-o
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby Maris09 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:31 pm

wrveres wrote:they have a formula? :-o

They certainly do.

- It's 2 parts correct stats from Monday thru Saturday.
- Mixed with 1 part uncorrectable stats from Sunday.
- Shaken over ice and served in a chilled sorry we don't have the "tool" to fix anything that happens on a Sunday.

It's delicious.
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Postby StlSluggers » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:38 pm

wrveres wrote:they have a formula? :-o

hahaha
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby Padsin05 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:36 pm

well first off, for pitchers, it definately doesnt factor in fip or xfip, so we obviously know that it doesnt rank them based off what could or should happen in fairyland on a given day.
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:06 pm

I've seen this formula used by Tom Tango:

The metric for hitting will be:
HR + SB + (H - .27*AB) + R/3 + RBI/3

The metric for pitching will be:
2*W + SV + K/5 + IP - (H + BB + ER)/2


It's pretty simple. .270 is slightly above league average BA so I'm assuming this is an estimate of average BA for fantasy leagues (not all players are used). So anything above .270 is going to be a positive contribution to the category. I suppose runs and RBI's are divided by 3 so that they don't impact multiple categories. Also SPs are weighted more heavily than RPs by the pitching metric.

I'm not sure if I can find the link. I just had the formula saved. It seems to align itself pretty well with the Yahoo rankings (though not perfectly).
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby jake_harv88 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:22 pm

Maris09 wrote:
wrveres wrote:they have a formula? :-o

They certainly do.

- It's 2 parts correct stats from Monday thru Saturday.
- Mixed with 1 part uncorrectable stats from Sunday.
- Shaken over ice and served in a chilled sorry we don't have the "tool" to fix anything that happens on a Sunday.

It's delicious.


dude give it up already. Your personal vendetta is easily the most annoying thing on the leftovers board right now...

jake_twothousandfive wrote:I've seen this formula used by Tom Tango:

The metric for hitting will be:
HR + SB + (H - .27*AB) + R/3 + RBI/3

The metric for pitching will be:
2*W + SV + K/5 + IP - (H + BB + ER)/2


It's pretty simple. .270 is slightly above league average BA so I'm assuming this is an estimate of average BA for fantasy leagues (not all players are used). So anything above .270 is going to be a positive contribution to the category. I suppose runs and RBI's are divided by 3 so that they don't impact multiple categories. Also SPs are weighted more heavily than RPs by the pitching metric.

I'm not sure if I can find the link. I just had the formula saved. It seems to align itself pretty well with the Yahoo rankings (though not perfectly).


Haha, I can't tell if this is a real post or not. If it's real, it's incredibly lame. If its a shot at some of the most recent sabermetric talk here its hilarious. Pick your side :-D
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:14 pm

Yahoo doesn't measure the lemon of a stat that is xFIP? I hope the authorities have been called :-o :-o

Maybe we need 17 threads about this as well ;-7 ;-7
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Re: Anyone know the formula Yahoo uses to rank players?

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:20 pm

jake_harv88 wrote:
jake_twothousandfive wrote:I've seen this formula used by Tom Tango:

The metric for hitting will be:
HR + SB + (H - .27*AB) + R/3 + RBI/3

The metric for pitching will be:
2*W + SV + K/5 + IP - (H + BB + ER)/2


It's pretty simple. .270 is slightly above league average BA so I'm assuming this is an estimate of average BA for fantasy leagues (not all players are used). So anything above .270 is going to be a positive contribution to the category. I suppose runs and RBI's are divided by 3 so that they don't impact multiple categories. Also SPs are weighted more heavily than RPs by the pitching metric.

I'm not sure if I can find the link. I just had the formula saved. It seems to align itself pretty well with the Yahoo rankings (though not perfectly).


Haha, I can't tell if this is a real post or not. If it's real, it's incredibly lame. If its a shot at some of the most recent sabermetric talk here its hilarious. Pick your side :-D


I ran the hitter metric for the top 25 Yahoo hitters. There are some outliners but there's a clear relationship.

.                  Tango     Yahoo Rank
Adrián González 57.39 18 16
Albert Pujols 61.87 12 11
Álex Ríos 72.35 5 5
B. Phillips 56.32 19 21
Brett Gardner 63.13 8 17
Carl Crawford 74.7 3 4
Chris Young 55.18 21 22
Corey Hart 51.59 25 24
David Wright 61.2 13 13
Evan Longoria 62.17 10 10
Hanley Ramírez 57.73 16 18
Joey Votto 62.42 9 9
Josh Hamilton 75.63 2 2
Justin Morneau 66.29 7 7
Kevin Youkilis 60.17 14 8
Magglio Ordóñez 53.18 23 25
Martín Prado 57.42 17 20
Michael Young 57.98 15 14
Miguel Cabrera 72.6 4 1
Paul Konerko 55.53 20 15
Robinson Canó 76.48 1 3
Ryan Braun 62.08 11 12
Ryan Howard 53.42 22 19
Torii Hunter 52.67 24 23
V. Guerrero 66.47 6 6


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