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is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby cs3 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:39 pm

I was reading the thread about the best OF in baseball and i got to thinking a little about the Dodgers, and Matt Kemp specifically.
For some reason he intuitively reminds me of Andruw Jones - his talents are very similar to the combination of speed/power/defensive ability that Jones possessed in the first half of his career.
so i did a little research and found that aside from the fact that Kemp has so far hit for higher BA, their numbers through their first 4 full seasons are remarkably similar (Kemp form '07-Present and Jones from '97-'00).

can we expect Kemps career trajectory to follow that of Jones?
for example a dramatic decline in SB's as power develops;
or an early career peak in AVG followed by a 5-6 year plateau at a significantly lower level, and finally a sharp decline in AVG?
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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby cs3 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:59 pm

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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:08 am

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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby AussieDodger » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:16 am

Kemp is not as powerful, and his BB/K is much much worse.
So no, not even close. :-D
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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby cs3 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:20 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1109&position=OF

im not sure if youre serious or not, but even accounting for the fact that Kemp has one obvious disadvantage compared to bonds (balco anyone?), he will never be that caliber of player.
kemp wont ever garner the respect from opposing teams nor come close to the 5 year run bonds had from '00-'04. not even in the same universe
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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby Zito is God » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:52 am

cs3 wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1109&position=OF

im not sure if youre serious or not, but even accounting for the fact that Kemp has one obvious disadvantage compared to bonds (balco anyone?), he will never be that caliber of player.
kemp wont ever garner the respect from opposing teams nor come close to the 5 year run bonds had from '00-'04. not even in the same universe


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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:53 am

cs3 wrote:
Neato Torpedo wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1109&position=OF

im not sure if youre serious or not, but even accounting for the fact that Kemp has one obvious disadvantage compared to bonds (balco anyone?), he will never be that caliber of player.
kemp wont ever garner the respect from opposing teams nor come close to the 5 year run bonds had from '00-'04. not even in the same universe

Well Kemp has one advantage over Andruw in that he's not a fat lazy sack of crap.

Really, Andruw is a 1 in 100 exception in player that dive bomb into irrelevance, and such a radical change should never be expected of anyone. It's like saying "is Oliver Perez the next Randy Johnson?"
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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby AussieDodger » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:58 am

Neato Torpedo wrote: It's like saying "is Oliver Perez the next Randy Johnson?"


Woah woah woah woah. That's like saying "Is StlSluggers the next Randy Johnson?" ;-7 :-b
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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby cs3 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:50 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:Well Kemp has one advantage over Andruw in that he's not a fat lazy sack of crap.

Really, Andruw is a 1 in 100 exception in player that dive bomb into irrelevance, and such a radical change should never be expected of anyone. It's like saying "is Oliver Perez the next Randy Johnson?"

i wasnt necessarily implying that Kemp will "dive bomb into irrelevance"... andruw actually had 10 very good seasons for Atlanta before he fell off.
i was more asking how likely it is that Kemps career numbers follow Jones statisccal trends
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Re: is Matt Kemp the next Anruw Jones?

Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:25 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:Well Kemp has one advantage over Andruw in that he's not a fat lazy sack of crap.

Watching him play CF this year I would disagree. Kemp has shown a huge lack of effort this year IMO and looks like he is going at half speed.
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