thejusman1 wrote:Definitely the Dodgers. Even with Manny not being what he used to be, Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier are lethal. The Rangers and the Cardinals benefit from playing in a smaller ballpark... I'm sure if Dodgers stadium were smaller, the Dodgers OF would have even more incredible numbers than they currently do.
The #1 misconception about hitting vs pitching parks has to be that Dodgers stadium is a strong pitchers park. It used to be when there was more foul territory, but it's been closer to neutral based on my memory looking at it the past three years.
If you count Vlad, then the Rangers hands-down. If you don't, then the Cards by a hair because Borbon is sucking so badly.
Montana168 wrote:I'm takin the dodgers all day. Matt Kemp is a gold-glove CF that can hit 30 homers, 30 steals, and hit over .300. Ethier has shown he can mash 30 homers, hit for a solid avg, and can hit the late-inning walk-offs when it counts. While Manny is certainly not the OF he was in his hey-day, he can still hit for a solid avg and contribute 25 homers and close to 100 rbi's, even though he is a liability in LF.
thejusman1 wrote:Definitely the Dodgers. Even with Manny not being what he used to be, Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier are lethal. The Rangers and the Cardinals benefit from playing in a smaller ballpark... I'm sure if Dodgers stadium were smaller, the Dodgers OF would have even more incredible numbers than they currently do.
The #1 misconception about hitting vs pitching parks has to be that Dodgers stadium is a strong pitchers park. It used to be when there was more foul territory, but it's been closer to neutral based on my memory looking at it the past three years.
Why is it that according to MLB Park Factors, Arlington rates at a 1.164, Busch a 1.051 and Dodgers a .937 then?
Neato Torpedo wrote:If you count Vlad, then the Rangers hands-down. If you don't, then the Cards by a hair because Borbon is sucking so badly.
Montana168 wrote:I'm takin the dodgers all day. Matt Kemp is a gold-glove CF that can hit 30 homers, 30 steals, and hit over .300. Ethier has shown he can mash 30 homers, hit for a solid avg, and can hit the late-inning walk-offs when it counts. While Manny is certainly not the OF he was in his hey-day, he can still hit for a solid avg and contribute 25 homers and close to 100 rbi's, even though he is a liability in LF.
Neato Torpedo wrote:If you count Vlad, then the Rangers hands-down. If you don't, then the Cards by a hair because Borbon is sucking so badly.
Montana168 wrote:I'm takin the dodgers all day. Matt Kemp is a gold-glove CF that can hit 30 homers, 30 steals, and hit over .300. Ethier has shown he can mash 30 homers, hit for a solid avg, and can hit the late-inning walk-offs when it counts. While Manny is certainly not the OF he was in his hey-day, he can still hit for a solid avg and contribute 25 homers and close to 100 rbi's, even though he is a liability in LF.
Montana, you've got 1000 posts. I assume a good percentage here in the baseball side of the cafe. You must know by now that most people in the Cafe don't think the Gold Glove award is a good measurement of defensive ability? That there are plenty of newer ways to measure defensive ability?
Hard to win an argument about defensive ability here based on Gold Glove winners.
By the way: I don't have an opinion on the best OF today. There are a bunch that are pretty close. I am pretty sure no one could argue about the best infield. Even with the corners having an off year so far, no one can compare to the Yankees in the infield.
There are a few things with the New York Yankees that never change. That's pride, tradition, and most of all, we have the greatest fans in the world. -Derek Jeter, 9/21/08 -- last words from old Yankee Stadium
Montana, you've got 1000 posts. I assume a good percentage here in the baseball side of the cafe. You must know by now that most people in the Cafe don't think the Gold Glove award is a good measurement of defensive ability? That there are plenty of newer ways to measure defensive ability?
Hard to win an argument about defensive ability here based on Gold Glove winners.
By the way: I don't have an opinion on the best OF today. There are a bunch that are pretty close. I am pretty sure no one could argue about the best infield. Even with the corners having an off year so far, no one can compare to the Yankees in the infield.
Rollins, Polanco, Utley, Howard? Not that I think it's better than the Yankees IF, which I do agree is better, but I think it can compare at least.
Joe Crede (.832 OPS, 30 HR, 94 RBI, 0 SB) won the Silver Slugger over A-Rod (.914 OPS, 35 HR, 121 RBI, 15 SB) in 2006, so he must have been the better hitter that year. Also, the Bartolo Colon debacle.
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Montana, you've got 1000 posts. I assume a good percentage here in the baseball side of the cafe. You must know by now that most people in the Cafe don't think the Gold Glove award is a good measurement of defensive ability? That there are plenty of newer ways to measure defensive ability?
Hard to win an argument about defensive ability here based on Gold Glove winners.
By the way: I don't have an opinion on the best OF today. There are a bunch that are pretty close. I am pretty sure no one could argue about the best infield. Even with the corners having an off year so far, no one can compare to the Yankees in the infield.
Rollins, Polanco, Utley, Howard? Not that I think it's better than the Yankees IF, which I do agree is better, but I think it can compare at least.
OK, so I'm just a bit of a homer!!
There are a few things with the New York Yankees that never change. That's pride, tradition, and most of all, we have the greatest fans in the world. -Derek Jeter, 9/21/08 -- last words from old Yankee Stadium
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by GoodOl'Days » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:02 pm 
Manny actually has the best glove out of the three. 
