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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby jfg » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:52 pm

Can't believe the greatest shortstop ever only has 5 votes. After McGwire did well in the 1b vote I thought steroids would be a non-factor. Maybe it's a combination of steroids/Yankees/3B.
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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby thedude » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:07 pm

jfg wrote:Can't believe the greatest shortstop ever only has 5 votes.



You are mistaken, Honus Wagner has only 2 votes.
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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby Grounded Polo » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:32 pm

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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby thejusman1 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:56 pm

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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:59 pm

jfg wrote:Maybe it's a combination of steroids/Yankees/3B.

This. And younger voters are going to think of him as a third basemen rather than a short stop. He has been playing 3B for the past seven seasons...it's tough to not think of him that way now. I didn't see a whole lot of him at SS myself.

He should win either SS or 3B. If you consider what he has done at each position separately in terms of production he's probably the best SS ever and in the top 5 at 3B. Pretty ridiculous.

Plus this is a vote for your favorite players. Not just the best ones.
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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby thedude » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:22 pm

jake_twothousandfive wrote:He should win either SS or 3B. If you consider what he has done at each position separately in terms of production he's probably the best SS ever and in the top 5 at 3B. Pretty ridiculous.


Nah Honus Wagner was better. Ole Honus was without a doubt better with the glove, better on the bases, and an arguement can be made Honus was A-rod's equal with the bat (he won 8 batting titles in his career).
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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby swyck » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:24 pm

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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby Shakes » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:11 pm

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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:24 pm

thedude wrote:
jfg wrote:Can't believe the greatest shortstop ever only has 5 votes.



You are mistaken, Honus Wagner has only 2 votes.


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Re: Personal Favorite SS: Builder

Postby j24jags » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:01 pm

jfg wrote:Can't believe the greatest shortstop ever only has 5 votes. After McGwire did well in the 1b vote I thought steroids would be a non-factor. Maybe it's a combination of steroids/Yankees/3B.

He's not a likeable guy, there are a lot of fans who despise him for various reasons.
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