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Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

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Who is worth more Wins?

Franklin Gutierrez
24
44%
Miguel Cabrera
30
56%
 
Total votes : 54

Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby DaSh 1s » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:41 pm

I am trying to determine if WAR is a valuable stat when judging baseball players. Judging by WAR Franklin Gutierrez is a more valuable player than Miggy.

Quick poll, fantasy baseball aside, who is a better in ML Baseball? F-Gut or the utterly savage M-Cab???
Last edited by DaSh 1s on Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby JMB05 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:51 pm

Do you ever just help the forum rather than being a dick to everyone who disagrees with you?
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby DaSh 1s » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:07 pm

Please do not curse in the cafe.
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby ayebatter » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:18 pm

I'm trying to determine if taste is a good way to judge fruit, which is healthier for you, apples or oranges. :-?
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby Zito is God » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:26 pm

I am not a huge fan of WAR stats and feel they are somewhat flawed. Without getting into too much debate as I have thorough debated the issue in the past, I use other stats to determine value of players. This is yet another example of why I do not use WAR.
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:41 pm

JMB05 wrote:Do you ever just help the forum rather than being a dick to everyone who disagrees with you?
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby DaSh 1s » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:48 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
JMB05 wrote:Do you ever just help the forum rather than being a dick to everyone who disagrees with you?

This is helping the Cafe. Proving WAR is not a tell all stat. Please do not curse in the cafe.
B-Chad wrote:Pedroia's LD rate of 20% is reason to believe he'll maintain a higher BA then Cano. It should also be noted he hits more FB's then Cano, which means that even if he posts a lower HR/FB then Cano, he should come in reasonably close to Cano in HR's
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby StlSluggers » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:11 pm

What's an F-Gut? Sounds gross. :-P
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby Tavish » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:27 pm

DaSh 1s wrote:I am trying to determine if WAR is a valuable stat when judging baseball players. Judging by WAR Franklin Gutierrez is a more valuable player than Miggy.

Quick poll, fantasy baseball aside, who is a better in ML Baseball? F-Gut or the utterly savage M-Cab???

Did you look up the WAR for the players this season?
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Re: Miguel Cabrera VS Franklin Gutierrez

Postby baseball77 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:32 pm

Tavish wrote:
DaSh 1s wrote:I am trying to determine if WAR is a valuable stat when judging baseball players. Judging by WAR Franklin Gutierrez is a more valuable player than Miggy.

Quick poll, fantasy baseball aside, who is a better in ML Baseball? F-Gut or the utterly savage M-Cab???

Did you look up the WAR for the players this season?



Clearly he did since he stated that in his question. His point, and I think it's very valid, is that people rely solely on one equation to determine a player's value, and when that happens, you get people arguing -- with a straight face -- that Franklin Gutierrez is more valuable than Miguel Cabrera who is currently putting up Triple Crown numbers.
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