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Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby StlSluggers » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:40 pm

Next time you see a news story about the "epidemic" of suicides at the Chinese manufacturing plant where Apple, among others, get their products made, think of this:

ZDNet wrote:Media gets its facts wrong - working at Foxconn significantly cuts suicide risk

Patrick Mattimore, a fellow at the Institute for Analytic Journalism, recently published the following article on China’s People’s Daily Online, headlined: Media badly misplaying Foxconn suicides.

Taiwanese-owned Foxconn has had seven suicides this year. That sounds like a lot, but the firm has an estimated 800,000 workers, more than 300,000 of them at a single plant in Shenzhen.

Although exact figures are hard to come by, even the most conservative estimate for China’s suicide rate is 14 per 100,000 per year (World Health Organization). In other words, Foxconn’s suicide epidemic is actually lower than China’s national average of suicides.


I checked his figures. World Health Organization suicide figures for China (1999) are 13 males and 14.8 females per 100,000 people.

Elderly (65+ years) suicide rates can be as much as 50% higher than youth (18 to 24 years), which means Foxconn’s suicide rate, with its younger workforce, should be significantly below the national average.

Let’s estimate an average of 10 suicides per 100,000 at Foxconn. Just the Shenzhen Foxconn plant alone, with its 330,000 employees, would be expected to have about 33 suicides this year, or 14 so far.

Foxconn has had just 10 suicides this year, and that’s across its entire workforce.

Working at Foxconn dramatically reduces people’s risk of suicide!


Mr Mattimore is right, the media is misrepresenting the facts. He writes:

The larger problem stems from the fact that most journalists have not been taught to critically examine statistics. They follow the herd which often means that they report numbers without providing readers a context for making sense of those numbers.

Hopefully, the public will wake up to the fact that there is nothing wrong at Foxconn and demand that newspapers act more responsibly and begin supplying some context when they decide to instigate their next corporate suicide watch.
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Re: Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby knapplc » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:53 pm

That's great news for all of the Foxconn employees here at the Cafe.
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Re: Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:10 pm

Reporter: Working at Foxconn dramatically reduces people’s risk of suicide!
Editor: Your story sucks. Bring me something good.
Reporter: What if we said it increases people’s risk of suicide?
Editor: Now you have something. ;-D ;-D
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Re: Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby StlSluggers » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:26 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Reporter: Working at Foxconn dramatically reduces people’s risk of suicide!
Editor: Your story sucks. Bring me something good.
Reporter: What if we said it increases people’s risk of suicide?
Editor: Now you have something. ;-D ;-D

Correction...

Reporter: What if we just listed the number of people who've killed themselves and mention Apple?
Editor: Now you have something. ;-D ;-D
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Re: Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:37 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:Reporter: Working at Foxconn dramatically reduces people’s risk of suicide!
Editor: Your story sucks. Bring me something good.
Reporter: What if we said it increases people’s risk of suicide?
Editor: Now you have something. ;-D ;-D

Correction...

Reporter: What if we just listed the number of people who've killed themselves and mention Apple?
Editor: Now you have something. ;-D ;-D


Well Apple and China are both evil so the story writes itself. :-D
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Re: Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby StlSluggers » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:00 pm

I'm saddened knowing that this is probably what really happened.

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Re: Working at Foxconn Significantly Cuts Suicide Risk

Postby bleach168 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:32 pm

I don't think that's a fair comparison. I think you have to compare Foxconn suicide rates with the suicide rates in other large Chinese corporations, not against the general public. It still might be lower though.
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