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Trade Ubaldo/Crawford/Lidge for Baker/Fielder/Soria? WHIR

Postby jacktowner » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:56 pm

This would be a big trade for both sides, but is it worth it for me? I'm doing ok in pitching stats right now, only behind on saves and holds. I'm not too worried about holds, but saves are hard to come by. Also, my hitting has been slow to progress, and it is still a far cry from impressive.

Ubaldo... hard to swallow even thinking about trading him away, but he gets peoples' attention. I have CC, Shields, Anderson, Danks and Slowey backing him up right now, so as long as Anderson can stay healthy, I should be able to maintain decent stats. Baker is a buy-low candidate, or at least I think he is. I tried trading Qualls away, but he insists on Lidge. Fielder is a bit of a question mark, but he's not going to get any worse, and even his bad streaks aren't all that bad. I'm struggling in HR, RBI, and OPS - last in each category. However, I'm first in SB - by a long shot (90 on the year so far) - hence the reason Crawford is in the equation. I hate to trade him away as he is a great all around guy, just not a lot of consistent power. Soria is my target for saves, which I could use much improvement in that category.

What's your take on this trade offer?

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Re: Trade Ubaldo/Crawford/Lidge for Baker/Fielder/Soria? WHIR

Postby redsoxsucker » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:18 pm

I wouldn't do that trade...In part because Anderson just got hurt again today but also I don't think you are getting nearly enough:

Ubaldo > Baker - by a long way
Crawford = Fielder - depends on your needs. You COULD use the power it looks like so I understand the desire
Soria > Lidge - but how much does that matter? If Lidge gets his job back, the peripherals don't count enough for this upgrade plus KC doesn't win much


I would maybe do this trade trying to replace Ubaldo with Shields...if he needs speed he still might bite.

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Re: Trade Ubaldo/Crawford/Lidge for Baker/Fielder/Soria? WHIR

Postby Lenny6 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:11 am

Baker could improve, but nobody has seen how the Twins new park will affect pitching stats over the summer months. And right now I would only trade Ubaldo away if somebody was overpaying for him, which I don't think this deal would accomplish. I'd turn it down and try to fish for a less expensive power bat like Adam LaRoche or Troy Glaus or even somebody who could pay dividends if they get on track like Adam Lind or Carlos Quentin to break up your middle infielder party.

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Re: Trade Ubaldo/Crawford/Lidge for Baker/Fielder/Soria? WHIR

Postby Roberto Clemente » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:30 am

I would NOT even think about making that trade.

Ubaldo is the best pitcher right now. At this point C.Crawford is better than P.Fielder. Soria is a better and more reliable Closer than B.Lidge...but that isn't nearly enough value to swing the trade.

You should hang onto Ubaldo and Crawford.
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Re: Trade Ubaldo/Crawford/Lidge for Baker/Fielder/Soria? WHIR

Postby LARS929 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:05 am

I wouldn't do that deal. You not only give the best player in the deal, you give the better pitcher by a long shot. The only real upgrade there is by closer, and IMO thats not that helpful.

Clearly Ubaldo is better than Baker. Crawford is better than Prince. and Yes Soria is better, but if Lidge can get his closer job back he could be a top closer.

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