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Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby Tom Emanski AllStars » Tue May 25, 2010 10:26 pm

Drop Berkman for David Ortiz or Adam LaRoche?

neither would probably see my lineup, but would eventually would like to move one of my 1B

I should also mention Clay Buchholz and Johnny Cueto are availabe, should i drop Peavy and pick up one of them?

AND Jose Bautista is still available. 3b is a thin position, he's also OF eligible and i could replace some slumping OF, or i could trade Reynolds for lots of talent if i acquire Bautista

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1B-Albert Pujols (1b)
2B-Alberto Callaspo (2b,3b)
3B-Mark Reynolds (1b/3b)
SS-Orlando Cabrera (ss)
OF-Adam Jones (of)
OF-Carlos Quentin (of)
OF-Jay Bruce (of)
Util-Joey Votto (1b)
BN-Jimmy Rollins (ss) DL
BN-Lance Berkman (1b)
BN-Grady Sizemore (of) DL
DL-Andre Ethier (of)

SP-Yovani Gallardo
SP-John Lester
RP-Carlos Marmol
RP-Rafael Soriano
P-Octavio Dotel
P-Matt Garza
P-Jake Peavy
BN-AJ Burnett
BN-Francisco Liriano
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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby BUCCOFAN » Tue May 25, 2010 10:40 pm

I would personally hold on too Berkman, but with it being only a 10 team league, and you being a RED SOX fan, might aswell get Ortiz while he is HOT, :-°

UNLESS, you think Berkman turns it on soon, and you can un-load him.

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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby Tom Emanski AllStars » Wed May 26, 2010 9:06 am

who would have more trade value? Berkman and his bum knee on the horrid astros or Ortiz and his well publicized struggles.

Berkman while not as hot as Ortiz has much better peripherals. He's walking more, striking out less than Ortiz even with Ortiz's hot streak.


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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby The Big Train » Wed May 26, 2010 9:19 am

I'm going to be the heretic here since I know no one else will agree with me. You know who I would drop? Grady Sizemore. He's getting second and third medical opinions this week and microfracture surgery is a possibility. Plus he'll probably have a rehab stint after the DL time ends. He's wasted on your bench or DL slot.

Bautista: can you afford another low AVG hitter? I'm not so sure. Reynolds power is legit. Bautista? Maybe, but not likely.

Buchholz for Peavy? Yes.
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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby djfoss73 » Wed May 26, 2010 9:21 am

ortiz has been bad for most of the last year and a half that's maybe a little injury/soreness/whatever old players tend to get related. berkman's never really had a bad year til now and is turning it up a bit recently, and his injury is a clear explanation for some early struggles (not to mention an offense that outside of andrus and recently pence has given berkman little to work with). id say ortiz will have hot streaks, you could pick him up for those, but berkman in my mind is a top 100 hitter the rest of the way this year and will be much steadier, not to mention that his PT will be pretty much daily, not the case for ortiz. my advice--ortiz will be good for streaks and you can bench him otherwise, hes not a terrible pickup, but you will absolutely regret dropping berkman. in fact, the only guy id consider dropping would be grady sizemore--the doctors they're sending him to indicate at least a few weeks on the DL, not to mention that hes been horrible so far...he might come back strong but if i was dropping anyone, might be him unless you think someone would trade for him. don't get too caught up in when you drafted him-he may come back strong, but it'll be awhile, and he also might come back equally cold.

and as far as peavy goes...im in that boat too, he cant seem to decide if he's a borderline top-25 guy or a total bust. im sitting him v. tampa, if i can afford to maybe his start after that too, but i just cant justify dropping a guy with his potential upside. buchholz is actually available in my league too...id take him over cueto most likely, but i tend to mistrust rookie pitchers that start hot so maybe just me--both are solid fantasy guys this year, peavy will be better than both if he hits his stride but id say hold, see if he gets a couple consecutive good starts, then either stick with him or see if you can deal at a point when he actually has value.

EDIT: above beat me to it. disagree on dropping peavy just yet...but i can see the logic, maybe im just in denial as a fellow peavy owner. also agree re: bautista...if he hits .240 it'll be a miracle. the way i think of him is he (apparently) has a lot of power, but picking him up essentially neutralizes whoever your best average guy is. having bautista and ichiro would average out to 2 guys who hit .285 and 15-20 HR--not bad, but i mean its pretty easy to find two substitutes with similar numbers who would likely be cheaper. and that's all assuming bautista's power surge is gonna continue. in real baseball id take him at his price any day-in fantasy you're just dropping your team BA by 5-10 points in exchange for a moderate power hitter. stay away
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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby Tom Emanski AllStars » Wed May 26, 2010 9:37 am

appreciate the feedback guys
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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby royalty » Wed May 26, 2010 9:43 am

I have to agree on Peavy, keep him for now, and this from a former owner who got out just in time (and a current Bucholz owner). Also, as has been stated very nicely above, Berkman is the guy to keep over Papi. I don't trust anyone who's body is falling apart after being suspected of PED's
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Re: Drop Berkman for David Ortiz? WHIR

Postby jbird669 » Wed May 26, 2010 9:44 am

Sizemore is finished, I'd actually drop him.

I think Peavy is better than both of those pitchers, so I'd hold onto him.

Berkman has better peripherals than Ortiz, so I'd hold onto him.
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