My Votto/Rollins for Tulo + Ellsbury/Gardner...100% WHIR

[Tom Emanski AllStars]

Trade proposed to me:
i give: Votto + Rollins
i get: Tulo + Ellsbury/Gardner

Obviously, I'm not going to accept that trade, but i do like the possiblity of adding Tulo, so please help me come up with a counter offer. I should mention David Ortiz is in FA so that would help with replacing Votto.

Here's what i'm thinking.
i give: Votto + Rollins
i get: Tulo + V.Martinez + B.Gardner

is that a good idea? or do you see any other possibilities? he's got a decent OF so i don't know if i can entice him with some of my OFers

10 team - H2H- 6x6 - nonkeeper - daily changes - max adds per week = 3
(R,HR,RBI,AVG,OBP,SB --- W,QS, SV,K,ERA,WHIP)

C-Geovany Soto (c)
1B-Albert Pujols (1b)
2B-Rickie Weeks (2b)
3B-Mark Reynolds (1b/3b)
SS-Jimmy Rollins (ss) DL
OF-Adam Jones (of)
OF-Carlos Quentin (of)
OF-Jay Bruce (of)
Util-Joey Votto (1b)
BN-Lance Berkman (1b)
BN-Grady Sizemore (of) DL
DL-Andre Ethier (of)

SP-Yovani Gallardo
SP-John Lester
RP-Carlos Marmol
RP-Rafael Soriano
P-Octavio Dotel
P-Matt Garza
P-Jake Peavy
BN-AJ Burnett
BN-Francisco Liriano
BN-Johnny Cueto


HIS TEAM
C-Victor Martinez
1b-K.Morales
2b-K.Johnson
3b-A.Rameriz
ss-Tulo
of-R.Braun
of-Carlos Gonzalez
of-Adam Lind
utl-Nelson Cruz
bn-brett gardner
bn-jacoby ellsbury

sp-billingsley
sp-ted lilly
rp-aardsma
rp-nunez
p-lindstrom
p-kershaw
p-j.johnson
p-b.arroyo
bn-e.santano
bn-strasburg
dl-brett anderson

[hartmtown]

I'm guessing he wouldn't go for a Votto/Rollins for Tulo/Braun deal. Maybe worth a shot though, especially if it's a public league (never know how stupid some people are).

Maybe you could offer Votto/Rollins for Tulo/Morales/Ellsbury, with the plan to accept a counter-offer of Gardner instead of Ellsbury. Again, this may not get it done, but it's an avenue of approach.

Help me?
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[Tom Emanski AllStars]

he didn't like my counter...any other suggestions. I really would like to land Tulo plus a SB threat.